Campanula pallida Wall. (syn: Campanula colorata Wall.; Campanula cana Wall.) as per FLORA SIMLENSIS by Sir Henry Collett, 1902 as per efi thread;
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Keys available at Flora of China fro differentiating C. pallida and C. cana;
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Afghanistan; Bangladesh; China South-Central; East Himalaya; India; Laos; Myanmar; Nepal; Pakistan; Thailand; Tibet; Vietnam; West Himalaya as per Catalogue of Life;
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Campanula cana ATJUNE2016/25 : 6 posts by 2 authors. Attachments (3)

Campanula cana
Shimla
March/April


One more photograph showing stigma. Attachments (1)


Wonderful details, …


Style and Stigma visible very clearly. Attachments (1)


I have my doubts about this coming with C.cana – see the posting I am about to make of an image taken in H.P. of what I consider is C.cana.


I think this may be Campanula pallida as per images and keys at Flora of China (Hypanthium obconic or campanulate, hispid; calyx lobes deltoid, narrowly triangular, or subulate, 2-8 mm, abaxially hispid (sometimes only along veins), margin entire or rarely serrulate as per details at C. pallida)


Thank you, … Even I have some doubts regarding it’s identity.

Flora Simlensis mentioned Campanula pallida (as syn. C. colorata) and included C. canescens and C. cana under this.

Plants I clicked were only 15cm in height and procumbent and not erect as for C. palida. There is another species- C. argyrotricha mentioned in Flora Simlensis but with bluish flowers.


Thanks, … After going through all the posts in efi, I find them very difficult to segregate. Keys in Flora of China are also very confusing and there is no doubt that both are very close.
It will not be a bad idea to follow Flora Simlensis for the time being.
May I request you to pl. post full botanical names with citations as mentioned in Flora Simlensis.

I think … will also agree for this.


Even Flora of China is not reliable is evident from corolla being mentioned as purple, blue-purple, or blue for C. pallida and blue, blue-purple, or violet for C. cana
There is no mention of white corolla at all.
Flora of Pakistan does not mention anything about Campanula cana
BSI has not released any flora on Campanulaceae so far.

As desired by you, I am posting the details of all the species of
Campanula found in H.P.
FLORA OF HIMACHAL PRADESH (Vol. 2) by H.J. Chowdhery & B.M. Wadhwa, 1984
1.        Campanula alsinoides Hook. F. & Thomson (Chamba and Kinnaur)
2.        Campanula argyrotricha Wall. ex A.DC. (from Shimla and Lahul & Spiti)
3.        Campanula aristata Wall. (Chamba and L&S)
4.        Campanula cana Wall. (Shimla and Kinnaur)
5.        Campanula cashmeriana Royle (Chamba and L&S)
6.        Campanula pallida Wall. Syn. Campanula colorata Wall. (Chamba, Kangra, Kinnaur, Kullu, L&S, Shimla, Solan, Una i.e. from hills as
well as plains)
7.        Campanula latifolia L. (Shimla, Chamba, Kinnaur ans L&S)
8.        Campanula wattiana B.K.Nayar & Babu (Shimla and Kinnaur)
FLORA SIMLENSIS by Sir Henry Collett, 1902
1.        Campanula argyrotricha Wall. ex A.DC.
2.        Campanula colorata Wall. (now Campanula pallida Wall.) and also included Campanula cana Wall. under this.
3.        Campanula latifolia L.
FLORA OF BASHAHR  (includes parts of Shimla and Kinnaur) by N.C. Nair, 1977
1.        Campanula alsinoides Hook. F. & Thomson
2.        Campanula argyrotricha Wall. ex A.DC.
3.        Campanula cana Wall.
4.        Campanula cashmeriana Royle
5.        Campanula pallida Wall. Syn. Campanula colorata Wall. and Campanula ramulosa Wall.
6.        Campanula latifolia L. (Shimla, Chamba, Kinnaur ans L&S)
7.        Campanula wattiana B.K.Nayar & Babu (Shimla and Kinnaur)
FLORA OF SIRMAUR  (Himachal Pradesh) by Harsimerjit Kaur & M. Sharma, 2004
1.        Campanula dimorphantha Schweinf. mentioned syn. Campanula benthamii Wall. ex Kitam.
2.        Campanula pallida Wall. Syn. Campanula colorata Wall.
FLORA OF CHAMBA DISTRICT  (Himachal Pradesh) by Harinder Singh & M. Sharma, 2006
1.        Campanula cana Wall.
2.        Campanula dimorphantha Schweinf. mentioned syn. Campanula benthamii Wall. ex Kitam.
3.        Campanula pallida Wall. Syn. Campanula colorata Wall.
FLORA OF KULLU DISTRICT  (Himachal Pradesh) by Harinder Singh & M. Sharma, 2006
1.        Campanula cashmeriana Royle
2.        Campanula dimorphantha Schweinf. mentioned syn. Campanula benthamii Wall. ex Kitam.
3.        Campanula pallida Wall. mentioned as syn. Campanula colorata Wall.
4.        Campanula wattiana B.K.Nayar & Babu


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Thanks, … I will follow Flora simlensis in this matter after seeing details closely of all posts in efi, till some one comes up with clear differences between the two.

Sir Henry Collett had included both under Campanula colorata.


Key from FLORA OF CHAMBA
1. Annual; flowers sessile, 0.4-0.8 cm long; calyx-lobes 1-4 mm long ……………..
2. Erect, leaves subacute, calyx-lobes 1.5- 4 mm long ……………………………..C. dimorphantha  (mentioned as syn. C. benthamii )
2. Decumbent, leaves obtuse, calyx-lobes 1 mm long ……………………………… C. cana
1. Perrenial; flowers pedicelled, 0.7-1.3 cm long; calyx-lobes 4.5-8 mm long..C. pallida
Calyx-lobes in my samples are 7-8 mm long thus pointing towards Campanula pallida. Flower colour in C. pallida is mentioned as blur-purple adding to the confusion. Secondly, plants were small hardly 15 cm and ascending and not erect as reported for C. pallida.
I believe now that my plant is C. pallida and not C. cana where flowers are sessile, calyx-lobes 1 mm long, corolla 6-8 mm long and leaves hardy 1 cm in length.


Thanks, …, If we follow this key, all our posted plants are of Campanula pallida.


Yes, …


Then all my posts are C. pallida !

We should take all our posts as pallida, until somebody can prove that both are different in view of wide ranging confusions in different floras.

Yes, … Sir Henry Collett in Flora Simlensis considered C. cana and C. pallida as same and had put them under C. colorata.

It means, even he was not able to differentiate between them.

Should I go through Campanula species at efloraofindia??

Yes, you should and point out the corrections needed.


Adding descriptions from FLORA OF CHAMBA

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Thanks …, for such detailed feedback!


 

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A bell shaped flower for id..
Location Chamba
Altitude 3500mts

Habit herb
Habitat wild
Plant height 14 inches

Campanula pallida (syn: C. colorata)


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Chamba heights id al200811: A bell shaped flower for id..

Location Chamba
Altitude 3500 mts

Habit herb
Habitat wild
Height 12 inches..

Campanula pallida var. pallida
This was extensively discussed on this forum long back.



 

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As … has rightly pointed out that this species is one of the very thoroughly discussed one in our group. I hope now my ID is correct..
Bot. name: Campanula pallida var. pallida
Photographed at around 10000 ft altitude en-route Hampta pass.

Campanula pallida var. pallida
Photographed at around 10000 ft altitude en-route Hampta pass


Yes … Very good photographs.



 

Campanula pallida Wall. in Asiat. Research. 13:375. 1820 var. pallida
syn: Campanula colorata Wall.; Campanula himalayensis Klotzsch; Campanula ramulosa Wall.
This species is one of the very thoroughly discussed in our group based on plants uploaded by … (with 35 responses)
After critical analysis I come to understand that the second set uploaded by … (not the first set which may be a different plant), his plant represented on Flowers of India and my photographs from Chakrata attached here belong to Campanula pallida var. pallida and share common feature of triangular toothed calyx lobes much shorter than corolla and covered with hispid hairs on calyx, corolla and leaves.

Plant with ascending or erect stems up to 50 cm tall, hispid; leaves alternate, elliptic, lanceolate to ovate, lower with winged petiole, upper sessile, hispid especially along veins, margin denticulate to entire; flowers purple to blue-purple, somewhat pendent, 10-12 mm long; calyx deeply lobed, segments triangular, somewhat toothed, 3-6 mm long, hispid especially along veins outside; corolla campanulate, lobes shoter than tube or as long as tube; style included; capsule obovoid to globose, hairy.


This plant is also in my database and I will post it also


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Campanulaceae & Gentianaceae Fortnight: Campanulaceae-Campanula pallida var. pallida from Chakrata-GSJUL28 : 1 post by 1 author. Attachments (4).

Campanula pallida Wall. in Asiat. Research. 13:375. 1820 var. pallida
syn: Campanula colorata Wall.; Campanula himalayensis Klotzsch; Campanula ramulosa Wall.
Plant with ascending or erect stems up to 50 cm tall, hispid; leaves alternate, elliptic, lanceolate to ovate, lower with winged petiole, upper sessile, hispid especially along veins, margin denticulate to entire; flowers purple to blue-purple, somewhat pendent, 10-12 mm long; calyx deeply lobed, segments triangular, somewhat toothed, 3-6 mm long, hispid especially along veins outside; corolla campanulate, lobes shoter than tube or as long as tube; style included; capsule obovoid to globose, hairy.

Potographed from Chakrata



 

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5 AUG 12
Mana, near Sri Badrinathabout 10600 ft

Habitat: mountain slope
Habit: small herb, about 50 cm high; flower about 10 – 15 mm across


Yes …



This tiny herb was captured on 16th August 2012, on way from Ghanghriya to Gobind Ghat (back journey)….Campanula pallida

Nice one. We too had seen this along the same trail.


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Campanulaceae & Gentianaceae Fortnight:: Campanula pallida from VOF:: NS 14 : 2 posts by 2 authors. Attachments (3).
This species was shot from Valley of Flowers, Uttrakhand..
This should be same as uploaded from Chakrata in my last message..
Campanula pallida


I think yes, typical C. pallida



 

Campanula pallida from
Govindghat Ghangriya Trail


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Campanula sp-1 en-route Vasundhara falls.

I think same C. pallida

 


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Campanula sp-2 en-route Vasundhara falls.

Campanula pallida I hope


Agreed Sir



This Campanula was shot from Chakrata, please help to fix the id..
Is this Campanula pallida…??
As per FOI


I think yes



This purple-flowered Campanula was shot from Chakrata area..
I hope this matches with this  ..Campanula pallida


I think yes, but please check something outside calyx in third photograph, you may enlarge your original and crop flower to blow up. If these are appendages, it cant be C. pallida


Attaching a cropped image for closer view, please..


Beautiful flower of this Campanula.


Nice photograph uploaded. The flower appears as Campanula patula because of hairy peduncle


C. patula is a much different delicate plant with linear leaves, spreading petals and and very narrow calyx lobes,


Campanula pallidaen-route Vasundhara falls.


I think yes



 

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Campanula pallida Wall : 2 posts by 2 authors. Attachments (4).

Date: 25 JULY, 2014
Location: On the way to Kalinchok, Dolakha District, East Nepal

Altitude : 8000 ft.


Correction: It was shot at 12000 ft.

Campanula pallida Wall. (accepted name)

Why is purple and white colors flower bear same name?

Nepali Names : गानो बुटी Gaano Butee/ नेपाली बिख  Nepalee Bikh



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Campanula pallida var. pallida ABAUG01/06 : 2 posts by 2 authors. 3 images.

These hairy purple flowers are larger than the Campanula pallida species found at lower altitudes here. I saw … remarks on the efloraofindia and am following his advice on the ID. The addition var. pallida is necessary to distinguish it from other very pale and smaller variety. Please advise.
Campanula pallida var. pallida—Purple Bellflower
On Mcleodganj-Triund trek, HP
2500m approx.

31 July 2016


Wonderful close ups.



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*Campanula pallida ABAUG01/07 : 2 posts by 2 authors. 5 images.

I found this also growing at that altitude. The ones at 1700-1800m are long gone turing into seedpods. But perhaps these higher-altitude plants flower late. I am assuming it is the same species C. pallida. Please advise.
Campanula pallidaPale Bellflower
On Mcleodganj-Triund trek, HP
2500m approx.

31 July 2016


Superb & complete set.



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Kailash-Manasarovar Yatra:: Campanulla Sp for ID NSJ-OCT 16/14 : 4 posts by 3 authors. Attachments (2)

Campanulla Sp for ID. Location near Lakhanpur village Height 7000 feet. Aug 29, 2016.


This appears to be Campanula pallida. I have come across it a number of times in Nepal – whilst the individual flowers can be attractive (from pale lilac to purple), overall it often has a rather ‘weedy’ appearance ‘Enumeration of the Flowering Plants of Nepal’ gives an altitudinal range of 1000-4500m.  ‘Flowers of Himalaya’ say cultivated areas, stone walls & banks – which fits with my experience of it in Nepal. Collet found it to be common in Shimla; there is a line drawing of it in ‘Flora Simlensis’; I question the reliability of the description of this species in this book along with synonyms given.

Collet and Stewart knew it as Campanula colorata; the latter author said very common and very variable, separating var. pallida and var. tibetica (which he felt might well be given specific rank) – the latter variety being recorded from Ladakh. I noted what I took to be this variety growing shaded & protected at the base of large boulders near Koksar (just over the Rohtang Pass, the first main settlement one comes to if one turns West, towards Leh). ‘Flora of Lahuaul-Spiti’ mentions both varieties in Lahaul. Campanulaceae account for ‘Flora of Pakistan’ say the petals of var. tibetica are bluish-white or pale blue.



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Campanula pallida Wall. : 3 posts by 2 authors. Attachments (6)

Location: Dolakha, Nepal 
Date : 4 September, 2017
Elevation : 7000 ft.


please help me to identify the following species
Species for Identification –
location – Deothachi, Mandi District, Himachal Pradesh  
Altitude- 2800-3200m 

Please check Campanula pallida

it is always much more difficult and time-consuming to reliably identify a plant when there is only a single image and there is insufficient close-up detail of floral parts and foliage.  Some species within a genus can be distinctive enough and readily matched but it is always useful to have “supporting evidence”.  PLEASE, on future occasions take and submit many more images per specimen, in good focus and close-up – if you refer to my web-site on the flora of the NW Himalaya (see: https://sites.google.com/a/shpa.org.uk/fowh/impatiens-1) this will offer extensive advice; do look through the whole site but first see the images taken of Impatiens glandulifera showing much greater detail, obtained using a modest compact digital camera. As you can see, the images provide vastly more information – which I view as “clues”, the equivalent to pieces in a jig-saw puzzle.  The more piece, which one can view clearly, the easier it is to arrive at an identification and the greater confidence one has in it.  Otherwise one can readily end up with a misidentification.  Too many data-bases, whether digital or old-fashioned printed ones, just with text or pictures, a littered with misidentified plants, which contributes to confusion and misleads.
As to this particular image, it is certainly of a Campanula and seems to be C.pallida – the flowers seem relatively large. I cannot see some of the detail, so have some reservations.  ‘Flowers of the Himalaya’ records this from Afghanistan to SE China @ 1200-4500m in cultivated areas, on stone walls and banks – which this seems to be (amongst Cotoneaster, Geranium and Potentilla, reminding me of equivalent elevation on the Rohtang).  Stewart knew this as C.colorata, describing it as very common and very variable from 500-2800m in N.Pakistan and Kashmir – some forms are very weedy in appearance.  He recognised var. tibetica, recorded from Chitral through to Ladakh; I saw at the base of boulders at Koksar (just over the Rohtang Pass in Lahaul) what I considered to be this variant – Stewart fight it might well be given specific rank but the plant you photographed does not fit this.
There are quite a number of Campanulas known in the NW Himalaya – much confusion remains as to distinguishing between some of them.  In cultivation, such
Campanulas appear to be prone to hybridisation.  I wonder if that is a factor in the wild?  If so, that would certainly complicate matters.  IF those posting images on EFI can take more quality images, this will help us resolve numerous identification riddles.  When covering C.alsinoides Stewart observed that this seemed like an apetalous form of C.colorata var. tibetica (see above) or of C.argyrotricha.  He stated that the cleistogamous forms of Campanula are often hard to identify.  He thought someone needed to cultivate the forms of this genus in the garden or a greenhouse.

Excuse this all sounding complicated but unfortunately, it often is, if one is to arrive at an identification which can be relied upon – otherwise we just increase the muddle and confusion



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wahlenbergia marginata : Attachments (3).  3 posts by 2 authors.

wahlenbergia marginata,
on the banks of the ganges
a few kilometers from rishikesh

second week of march


This should be Campanula colorata in my opinion…


Thank you for correcting the Id. You do seem right.


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Flower?/ABMAR35 : 6 posts by 3 authors. Attachments (3)

This tiny flower was on the mountain path on a lone plant with many buds.
I made some photographs but could not discern its ID. Please advise.
Above Mcleodganj, Dharamshala, HP
1800m approx.

31 March 2015


Campanula species (Campanulaceae).


Campanula species in eFloraofindia (with details/ keys from published papers/ regional floras/ FRLHT/ FOI/ Biotik/ efloras/ books etc., where ever available) 


My study since this post has suggested Campanula pallida. Please advise.


It should be Campanula pallida



 

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Campanulas are also out and I photographed some to share here. 4 Images.

Campanula pallida var. pallida
19-21 March 2016
Above Mcleodganj, Dharamshala, HP


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Campanula pallida Wall. (accepted name) : 4 posts by 3 authors. Attachments (11)

Location: Raniban, Balaju, Nepal
Date: 30 March 2017
Altitude: 4800 ft.
Nepali Namesगानो बुटी Gaano Butee/ नेपाली बिख  Nepalee Bikh 

To me it looks more closer to the images at Campanula cana Wall. rather than Campanula pallida Wall. as per comparative images at Campanula

However, both species appear quite close as per the following keys in FOC:

21 (20) Calyx lobes narrowly triangular to subdeltoid, toothed or not; leaves often hispid, less frequently pannose abaxially; stems single or several from one caudex, erect or ascending. 10 C. pallida
+ Calyx lobes subulate-triangular to narrowly triangular, rarely toothed; leaves densely pannose abaxially; stems usually numerous from one caudex, often diffuse, less often ascending. 11 C. cana

May I request … to pl. check them thoroughly.


On further scrutiny, I think this may be Campanula pallida only as per images and keys at Flora of China (Hypanthium obconic or campanulate, hispid; calyx lobes deltoid, narrowly triangular, or subulate, 2-8 mm, abaxially hispid (sometimes only along veins), margin entire or rarely serrulate as per details at C. pallida)


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Campanula pallida Wall. (accepted name) : 6 posts by 3 authors. Attachments (11) – around 500 kb each.

Location: Raniban, Balaju, Nepal
Date: 30 March 2017
Altitude: 4800 ft.
Nepali Names : गानो बुटी Gaano Butee/ नेपाली बिख  Nepalee Bikh 

To me it looks more closer to the images at Campanula cana Wall. rather than Campanula pallida Wall. as per comparative images at Campanula

However, both species appear quite close as per the following keys in FOC:

21 (20) Calyx lobes narrowly triangular to subdeltoid, toothed or not; leaves often hispid, less frequently pannose abaxially; stems single or several from one caudex, erect or ascending. 10 C. pallida
+ Calyx lobes subulate-triangular to narrowly triangular, rarely toothed; leaves densely pannose abaxially; stems usually numerous from one caudex, often diffuse, less often ascending. 11 C. cana

May I request … to pl. check them thoroughly.


On further scrutiny, I think this may be Campanula pallida only as per images and keys at Flora of China (Hypanthium obconic or campanulate, hispid; calyx lobes deltoid, narrowly triangular, or subulate, 2-8 mm, abaxially hispid (sometimes only along veins), margin entire or rarely serrulate as per details at C. pallida)



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Campanula pallida in FOI : 3 posts by 2 authors.
Campanula pallida in FOI may be Campanula cana as per images, details and keys herein.
Pl. see Campanula pallida in efi with images and details.

Campanula pallida versus Campanula cana is an issue that has perplexed me for a long time. … is witness to that.

For example, I am not able to see the difference between this Campanula pallida and this Campanula cana posted in efi.

The Campanula cana pictures in Flora of China sites, look different to me (in the shape of the flower) compared to the flowers shown in the above efi links
http://www.plantphoto.cn/tu/1207245
illustration

Our flowers seem to have a narrower bell shape, and longer, narrower sepals.


In view of discussions in another thread with wonderful inputs provided by …, it will be better if we keep plants identified as either of the two as Campanula pallida


Campanula cana Wall. in Roxb., Fl. Ind. 2: 101. 1824.
There has been a long discussion on this plant when … uploaded his plant, which we now agree to be Campanula pallida var. pallida.
The photographs uploaded by me here after comparing several others appear Campanula cana (and not C. pallida as depicted on FOI) more firmly because.
1. The following links on Flora of China which resemble mine:
2. The plant, leaves, calyx are softly hairy and giving whitish hue to these parts, and not bristly.
3. calyx lobes nearly linear to subulate, not triangular and not toothed, more or less spreading.
4. Corolla lobes almost as long as tube and somewhat spreading.
5. style slightly exserted (and not included as in C. pallida) and clearly 3-lobed stigma.

The flower colour does look lighter than in description, but it matches with eFl of China photographs.


I have a similar plant i will post it in a separate thread


I have my doubts about this coming with C.cana – see the posting I am about to make of an image taken in H.P. of what I consider is C.cana.


Thanks, …,
What about the following:

“The following links on Flora of China which resemble mine:

One, two, three, four and five

To me these appear quite close.


This is the same plant which I had posted as Campanula cana and we discussed yesterday. In view of the account given by Prof. Mangleshwar Sharma ji of Punjabi University, Patiala in Flora of Chamba, it should be C. pallida.
But the link provided by you from Flores of China and flora.org are acting to the confusion.


Yes, we have to treat Campanula cana as a syn. of Campanula pallida as per Flora Similensis.
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SK1028 19 MAR-2018 : 5 posts by 2 authors. Attachments (9)- some around 1 mb and some around 200 kb.

Location: Mudkhu, Kathmandu, Nepal 
Altitude: 5000 ft.
Date: 16 March 2018
Habit : Wild
Campanula pallida Wall.  ??

I think more closer to images at Campanula cana Wall. rather than those at Campanula pallida Wall. 


You may be right …!

Looks so similar and difficult for me to decide.

Taking it as Campanula pallida (syn. C. cana) as per discussions under thread: Campanula cana ATJUNE2016/25



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This Campanula species was shot from Chakrata area in september 2011. Id please…


For me it is Campanula cana. Pl see photographs in Flora of China.

http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200022861


 


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Here are few more pics for reconfirming…


I have my doubts about this coming with C.cana – see the posting I am about to make of an image taken in H.P. of what I consider is C.cana. There has been much confusion about the small-flowered Campanulas in the Himalaya.


Taking it as Campanula pallida (syn. C. cana) as per discussions under thread: Campanula cana ATJUNE2016/25



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Campanulaceae & Gentianaceae Week: Campanulaceae-Campanula 03 from Paddar valley J&K:

Kindly confirm the Id
Bot. name: Campanula cana
Location: Paddar valley J&K
Date: 19th May 2012
Kindly have a look on the link

Yes …


I have my doubts about this coming with C.cana – see the posting I am about to make of an image taken in H.P. of what I consider is C.cana.


Taking it as Campanula pallida (syn. C. cana) as per discussions under thread: Campanula cana ATJUNE2016/25



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Campanulaceae & Gentianaceae Week: Campanulaceae-Campanula 02 from Paddar valley J&K: 2 images- 1 Mb each.

Kindly confirm the ID
Bot. name: Campanula pallida
Location: Paddar valley J&K
Altitude: 2000 meters asl
Date:19th May 2012

Kindly have a look on …  post


I am tempted to call your this plant as C. cana only; please note softly hairy (and not hispid), linear toothless calyx lobes, more deeply divided corolla with spreading lobes.


I have my doubts about this coming with C.cana – see the posting I am about to make of an image taken in H.P. of what I consider is C.cana.

Taking it as Campanula pallida (syn. C. cana) as per discussions under thread: Campanula cana ATJUNE2016/25



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Wild Plant For ID : Uttarakhand : 220413 : AK-2 : Attachments (1). 4 posts by 2 authors.

A small wild plant seen on 23/3/13 on way to Nainital.
Tiny white bell shaped flowers.

Id please.


Campanula sp…


This looks similar to Campanula pallida on FOI. Experts kindly verify for id confirmation.

To me it looks like Campanula pallida, common name Pale Bellflower as in FOI.

Experts kindly confirm id.


Yes … I am agree with C pallida


I think this may be Campanula cana as per images, keys and details herein.


Taking it as Campanula pallida (syn. C. cana) as per discussions under thread: Campanula cana ATJUNE2016/25


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Wild plant seen on way to Nainital on 23/3/13.

Posted on our group earlier.

Campanula pallida by …

Kindly validate.


I think it has already been validated. Pl. see Wild Plant For ID : Uttarakhand : 220413 : AK-2


I think this may be Campanula cana as per images, keys and details herein.


Taking it as Campanula pallida (syn. C. cana) as per discussions under thread: Campanula cana ATJUNE2016/25



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Flora of Himachal Pradesh: Campanula pallida from Shimla : Attachments (4). 4 posts by 3 authors.

Campanula pallida from Shimla

Pls validate


Yes … Good Photographs


I think this may be Campanula cana as per images, keys and details herein.


Taking it as Campanula pallida (syn. C. cana) as per discussions under thread: Campanula cana ATJUNE2016/25


 


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Saw these at many places along the Govindghat-Ghangaria trail and also along the VOF trail, Uttarakhand in Aug 2018.
Seen aplenty.
They strongly resemble Campanula pallida on efi. Requested to kindly validate.

Thank, … Efi page available at


To me also appear close at first glance.


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Campanula pallida Wall. : 5 posts by 2 authors. Attachments (3)- 1mb, 2 mb and 2 mb each.
Location : Chandragiri Hills, Kathmandu, Nepal
Elevation : 2350 m.
Date : 12 December 2018

Habit : Wild


Attachments (2)- 2 mb and 3 mb

Attachments (2) – 1 mb and 2 mb



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Campanula pallida Wall. : 7 posts by 3 authors. Attachments (4)- 1 mb or more.
Location: Chisapani, Kathmandu
Date: 01 October  2019
Elevation: 2176 m.

Habit : Wild

Again !

Attachments (2)- 2 mb each.

Attachments (1) – 7 mb.


Thank you … Hope ID is correct.


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Campanula from Phulchowki Peak Nepal : 3 posts by 3 authors. Attachments (1)

The date is 6th Sept, elevation is 2600-2700 m


Campanula pallida Wall.!



Campanula cana Wall. in Roxb., Fl. Ind. 2: 101. 1824.
There has been a long discussion on this plant when … uploaded his plant, which we now agree to be Campanula pallida var. pallida.
The photographs uploaded by me here after comparing several others appear Campanula cana (and not C. pallida as depicted on FOI) more firmly because.
1. The following links on Flora of China which resemble mine:
2. The plant, leaves, calyx are softly hairy and giving whitish hue to these parts, and not bristly.
3. calyx lobes nearly linear to subulate, not triangular and not toothed, more or less spreading.
4. Corolla lobes almost as long as tube and somewhat spreading.
5. style slightly exserted (and not included as in C. pallida) and clearly 3-lobed stigma.
The flower colour does look lighter than in description, but it matches with eFl of China photographs.

There has been inconclusive discussion on this plant when uploaded earlier. Hope it is resolved this time


It is a frequent species in temperate Uttarakhand. Hope the expert of Campanulaceae will resolve the ID this time.


Can be Campanula colorata?


C. colorata is old name for C. pallida

I have already explained why it can’t be C. pallida


I guess Campanula pallida Wall. should be the correct ID.


I request you to compare the calyx a deciding character.
2 images.

 


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Campanula flowers seen in Kodai in Oct,08.

Cultivated, garden plant.
Had posted on our group earlier.

Campanula trachelium?


Some earlier relevant feedback from another thread:

“It could be Campanula ramulosa Wall., from Nilgiri and Kodaikanal hills at 2000 – 2300 m alt. Here the height of the plant is important. C. ramulosa is usually 6 – 10 cm tall only. The photographs do not indicate any idea about the height of the plant.

“Plants were not as short as 6 – 10 cm only, not very tall either. About a feet tall.” from …


Campanula ramulosa Wall. is asyn. of Campanula pallida

I think Campanula trachelium is not found in India. Pl. see Campanula, Wikipedia & WCSP




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Campanulaceae & Gentianaceae Week : Campanula Species for ID : Kodaikanal : AK-1: Pictures taken on 24th & 25th Oct,2008 in Kodaikanal.
Had posted these on our group earlier and they were identified as Campanula.

Correct id please.


It could be Campanula ramulosa Wall., from Nilgiri and Kodaikanal hills at 2000 – 2300 m alt. Here the height of the plant is important. C. ramulosa is usually 6 – 10 cm tall only. The photographs do not indicate any idea about the height of the plant.


Plants were not as short as 6 – 10 cm only, not very tall either. About a feet tall.


Campanula pallida Wall. as per Campanulaceae and Gentianaceae Fortnight: July 1 to 14, 2014 : Campanula For ID : Kodaikanal : 020714 : AK-1


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request for species id : 5 high resolution images.
please check attached images of Campanula, please verify species id, it looks pallida for me.

captured at Doda JK
altitude 1700m approx.


Yes, Campanula pallida as per images and details herein.



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References for Campanula pallida Wall.:

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