Campanula pallida

Campanula pallida Wall., Asiat. Res. 13: 375 (1820) (syn: Campanula colorata Wall.; Campanula himalayensis Klotzsch; Campanula hoffmeisteri Klotzsch; Campanula microcarpa C.Y.Wu; Campanula moorcroftiana Wall.; Campanula nepetifolia H.Lév. & Vaniot; Campanula nervosa Royle; Campanula pallida var. tibetica (Hook.f. & Thomson) H.Hara; Campanula ramulosa Wall.; Campanula wightii Gamble) as per POWO;
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Campanula pallida Wall. (syn: Campanula colorata Wall.; Campanula cana Wall.) as per FLORA SIMLENSIS by Sir Henry Collett, 1902 as per efi thread;

Campanula pallida Wall., Asiat. Res. 13: 375 1820. (Syn: Campanula colorata Wall. ……; Campanula himalayensis Klotzsch; Campanula hoffmeisteri Klotzsch; Campanula microcarpa C.Y.Wu; Campanula moorcroftiana Wall. [Invalid]; Campanula nepetifolia H.Lév. & Vaniot [Invalid]; Campanula nervosa Royle [Invalid]; .; .; Campanula ramulosa Wall.; Campanula wightii Gamble);

Keys available at Flora of China for differentiating C. pallida and C. cana;

Afghanistan; Bangladesh; China South-Central; East Himalaya; India; Laos; Myanmar; Nepal; Pakistan; Thailand; Tibet; Vietnam; West Himalaya as per Catalogue of Life;
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Common name: Purple Bellflower • Nepali: गानॊबूटी Gaanobuti, नेपाली विख Nepali bikh

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Thank you, … Even I have some doubts regarding it’s identity.
Flora Simlensis mentioned Campanula pallida (as syn. C. colorata) and included C. canescens and C. cana under this.
Plants I clicked were only 15cm in height and procumbent and not erect as for C. palida. There is another species- C. argyrotricha mentioned in Flora Simlensis but with bluish flowers.

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As desired by you, I am posting the details of all the species of
Campanula found in H.P.
FLORA OF HIMACHAL PRADESH (Vol. 2) by H.J. Chowdhery & B.M. Wadhwa, 1984
1.        Campanula alsinoides Hook. F. & Thomson (Chamba and Kinnaur)
2.        Campanula argyrotricha Wall. ex A.DC. (from Shimla and Lahul & Spiti)
3.        Campanula aristata Wall. (Chamba and L&S)
4.        Campanula cana Wall. (Shimla and Kinnaur)
5.        Campanula cashmeriana Royle (Chamba and L&S)
6.        Campanula pallida Wall. Syn. Campanula colorata Wall. (Chamba, Kangra, Kinnaur, Kullu, L&S, Shimla, Solan, Una i.e. from hills as
well as plains)
7.        Campanula latifolia L. (Shimla, Chamba, Kinnaur ans L&S)
8.        Campanula wattiana B.K.Nayar & Babu (Shimla and Kinnaur)
FLORA SIMLENSIS by Sir Henry Collett, 1902
1.        Campanula argyrotricha Wall. ex A.DC.
2.        Campanula colorata Wall. (now Campanula pallida Wall.) and also included Campanula cana Wall. under this.
3.        Campanula latifolia L.
FLORA OF BASHAHR  (includes parts of Shimla and Kinnaur) by N.C. Nair, 1977
1.        Campanula alsinoides Hook. F. & Thomson
2.        Campanula argyrotricha Wall. ex A.DC.
3.        Campanula cana Wall.
4.        Campanula cashmeriana Royle
5.        Campanula pallida Wall. Syn. Campanula colorata Wall. and Campanula ramulosa Wall.
6.        Campanula latifolia L. (Shimla, Chamba, Kinnaur ans L&S)
7.        Campanula wattiana B.K.Nayar & Babu (Shimla and Kinnaur)
FLORA OF SIRMAUR  (Himachal Pradesh) by Harsimerjit Kaur & M. Sharma, 2004
1.        Campanula dimorphantha Schweinf. mentioned syn. Campanula benthamii Wall. ex Kitam.
2.        Campanula pallida Wall. Syn. Campanula colorata Wall.
FLORA OF CHAMBA DISTRICT  (Himachal Pradesh) by Harinder Singh & M. Sharma, 2006
1.        Campanula cana Wall.
2.        Campanula dimorphantha Schweinf. mentioned syn. Campanula benthamii Wall. ex Kitam.
3.        Campanula pallida Wall. Syn. Campanula colorata Wall.
FLORA OF KULLU DISTRICT  (Himachal Pradesh) by Harinder Singh & M. Sharma, 2006
1.        Campanula cashmeriana Royle
2.        Campanula dimorphantha Schweinf. mentioned syn. Campanula benthamii Wall. ex Kitam.
3.        Campanula pallida Wall. mentioned as syn. Campanula colorata Wall.
4.        Campanula wattiana B.K.Nayar & Babu

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Thanks, … I will follow Flora simlensis in this matter after seeing details closely of all posts in efi, till some one comes up with clear differences between the two.

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Sir Henry Collett had included both under Campanula colorata.

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Key from FLORA OF CHAMBA
1. Annual; flowers sessile, 0.4-0.8 cm long; calyx-lobes 1-4 mm long ……………..
2. Erect, leaves subacute, calyx-lobes 1.5- 4 mm long …… C. dimorphantha  (mentioned as syn. C. benthamii )
2. Decumbent, leaves obtuse, calyx-lobes 1 mm long ….. C. cana
1. Perrenial; flowers pedicelled, 0.7-1.3 cm long; calyx-lobes 4.5-8 mm long … C. pallida
Calyx-lobes in my samples are 7-8 mm long thus pointing towards Campanula pallida. Flower colour in C. pallida is mentioned as blur-purple adding to the confusion. Secondly, plants were small hardly 15 cm and ascending and not erect as reported for C. pallida.
I believe now that my plant is C. pallida and not C. cana where flowers are sessile, calyx-lobes 1 mm long, corolla 6-8 mm long and leaves hardy 1 cm in length.

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Thanks, …, If we follow this key, all our posted plants are of Campanula pallida.

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Yes, …

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Then all my posts are C. pallida !

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We should take all our posts as pallida, until somebody can prove that both are different in view of wide ranging confusions in different floras.

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Yes, … Sir Henry Collett in Flora Simlensis considered C. cana and C. pallida as same and had put them under C. colorata.

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Should I go through Campanula species at efloraofindia??

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Yes, you should and point out the corrections needed.

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Adding descriptions from FLORA OF CHAMBA
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Thanks …, for such detailed feedback!

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Chamba Heights id al140811: 3 images.

A bell shaped flower for id..

Location Chamba
Altitude 3500mts
Habit herb
Habitat wild
Plant height 14 inches

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Campanula pallida (syn: C. colorata)

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Chamba heights id al200811:
A bell shaped flower for id..

Location Chamba
Altitude 3500 mts
Habit herb
Habitat wild
Height 12 inches..

Campanula pallida var. pallida
This was extensively discussed on this forum long back.

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Campanulaceae & Gentianaceae Week: Campanulaceae-Campanula pallida var. pallida en-route Hampta Pass: 3 images.

As … has rightly pointed out that this species is one of the very thoroughly discussed one in our group. I hope now my ID is correct..
Bot. name: Campanula pallida var. pallida
Photographed at around 10000 ft altitude en-route Hampta pass.

Campanulaceae & Gentianaceae Fortnight: Campanulaceae-Campanula pallida var. pallida en-route Hampta Pass:: PKA5 : 3 posts by 3 authors. Attachments (3).

Campanula pallida var. pallida
Photographed at around 10000 ft altitude en-route Hampta pass

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Yes … Very good photographs.

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Campanulaceae & Gentianaceae Week: Campanulaceae-Campanula pallida var. pallida from Chakrata: 4 images.

syn: Campanula colorata Wall.; Campanula himalayensis Klotzsch; Campanula ramulosa Wall.

This species is one of the very thoroughly discussed in our group based on plants uploaded by … (with 35 responses)

After critical analysis I come to understand that the second set uploaded by … (not the first set which may be a different plant), his plant represented on Flowers of India and my photographs from Chakrata attached here belong to Campanula pallida var. pallida and share common feature of triangular toothed calyx lobes much shorter than corolla and covered with hispid hairs on calyx, corolla and leaves.
Plant with ascending or erect stems up to 50 cm tall, hispid; leaves alternate, elliptic, lanceolate to ovate, lower with winged petiole, upper sessile, hispid especially along veins, margin denticulate to entire; flowers purple to blue-purple, somewhat pendent, 10-12 mm long; calyx deeply lobed, segments triangular, somewhat toothed, 3-6 mm long, hispid especially along veins outside; corolla campanulate, lobes shoter than tube or as long as tube; style included; capsule obovoid to globose, hairy.

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This plant is also in my database and I will post it also

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Campanulaceae & Gentianaceae Fortnight: Campanulaceae-Campanula pallida var. pallida from Chakrata-GSJUL28 : 1 post by 1 author. Attachments (4).

VoF Week :: DV :: 05 AUG 12 – 0144 :: Campanula ¿ pallida ? at Mana village near Sri Badrinath: 2 images.

VOF Week: Campanula pallida: 6 images.

This tiny herb was captured on 16th August 2012, on way from Ghanghriya to Gobind Ghat (back journey)….Campanula pallida…

VoF Week: Campanula pallida from Govindghat Ghangriya Trail: 11 images.

Campanula pallida from

Govindghat Ghangriya Trail

VOF Week: Campanula sp-1 en-route Vasundhara falls: 4 images.

Campanula sp-1 en-route Vasundhara falls.

I think same C. pallida

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Campanula sp-2 en-route Vasundhara falls: 4 images.

Campanula sp-2 en-route Vasundhara falls.

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Campanulaceae & Gentianaceae Fortnight:: Campanula pallida from Chakrata :: NS 13 : 6 posts by 4 authors. Attachments (4).

This purple-flowered Campanula was shot from Chakrata area..
I hope this matches with this  ..Campanula pallida

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I think yes, but please check something outside calyx in third photograph, you may enlarge your original and crop flower to blow up. If these are appendages, it cant be C. pallida

Attaching a cropped image for closer view, please..

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Beautiful flower of this Campanula.

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Nice photograph uploaded. The flower appears as Campanula patula because of hairy peduncle

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C. patula is a much different delicate plant with linear leaves, spreading petals and and very narrow calyx lobes,

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Campanulaceae & Gentianaceae Fortnight: Campanulaceae : Campanula pallida? en-route Vasundhara falls : PKA31 : 2 posts by 2 authors. Attachments(3).
Campanula pallida?  en-route Vasundhara falls.

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Campanula pallida Wall : 2 posts by 2 authors. Attachments (4).

Correction: It was shot at 12000 ft.
Campanula pallida Wall. (accepted name)
Why is purple and white colors flower bear same name?

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Nepali Names : गानो बुटी Gaano Butee/ नेपाली बिख  Nepalee Bikh

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Campanula pallida var. pallida ABAUG01/06 : 2 posts by 2 authors. 3 images.

These hairy purple flowers are larger than the Campanula pallida species found at lower altitudes here. I saw … remarks on the efloraofindia and am following his advice on the ID. The addition var. pallida is necessary to distinguish it from other very pale and smaller variety. Please advise.

Campanula pallida var. pallida—Purple Bellflower

Wonderful close ups.

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*Campanula pallida ABAUG01/07 : 2 posts by 2 authors. 5 images.

I found this also growing at that altitude. The ones at 1700-1800m are long gone turing into seedpods. But perhaps these higher-altitude plants flower late. I am assuming it is the same species C. pallida. Please advise.

Superb & complete set.

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Kailash-Manasarovar Yatra:: Campanulla Sp for ID NSJ-OCT 16/14 : 4 posts by 3 authors. Attachments (2)
Campanulla Sp for ID. Location near Lakhanpur village Height 7000 feet. Aug 29, 2016.

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Campanula pallida Wall. : 3 posts by 2 authors. Attachments (6)

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Dear sir please help me to identify the following species 4 : 4 posts by 1 author. 1 image.

Species for Identification –

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it is always much more difficult and time-consuming to reliably identify a plant when there is only a single image and there is insufficient close-up detail of floral parts and foliage.  Some species within a genus can be distinctive enough and readily matched but it is always useful to have “supporting evidence”.  PLEASE, on future occasions take and submit many more images per specimen, in good focus and close-up – if you refer to my web-site on the flora of the NW Himalaya (see: https://sites.google.com/a/shpa.org.uk/fowh/impatiens-1) this will offer extensive advice; do look through the whole site but first see the images taken of Impatiens glandulifera showing much greater detail, obtained using a modest compact digital camera. As you can see, the images provide vastly more information – which I view as “clues”, the equivalent to pieces in a jig-saw puzzle.  The more piece, which one can view clearly, the easier it is to arrive at an identification and the greater confidence one has in it.  Otherwise one can readily end up with a misidentification.  Too many data-bases, whether digital or old-fashioned printed ones, just with text or pictures, a littered with misidentified plants, which contributes to confusion and misleads.

As to this particular image, it is certainly of a Campanula and seems to be C.pallida – the flowers seem relatively large. I cannot see some of the detail, so have some reservations.  ‘Flowers of the Himalaya’ records this from Afghanistan to SE China @ 1200-4500m in cultivated areas, on stone walls and banks – which this seems to be (amongst Cotoneaster, Geranium and Potentilla, reminding me of equivalent elevation on the Rohtang).  Stewart knew this as C.colorata, describing it as very common and very variable from 500-2800m in N.Pakistan and Kashmir – some forms are very weedy in appearance.  He recognised var. tibetica, recorded from Chitral through to Ladakh; I saw at the base of boulders at Koksar (just over the Rohtang Pass in Lahaul) what I considered to be this variant – Stewart fight it might well be given specific rank but the plant you photographed does not fit this.

There are quite a number of Campanulas known in the NW Himalaya – much confusion remains as to distinguishing between some of them.  In cultivation, such

Campanulas appear to be prone to hybridisation.  I wonder if that is a factor in the wild?  If so, that would certainly complicate matters.  IF those posting images on EFI can take more quality images, this will help us resolve numerous identification riddles.  When covering C.alsinoides Stewart observed that this seemed like an apetalous form of C.colorata var. tibetica (see above) or of C.argyrotricha.  He stated that the cleistogamous forms of Campanula are often hard to identify.  He thought someone needed to cultivate the forms of this genus in the garden or a greenhouse.
Excuse this all sounding complicated but unfortunately, it often is, if one is to arrive at an identification which can be relied upon – otherwise we just increase the muddle and confusion

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What would you call it in view of your recent posts and keys in Flora of China.

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I think we should keep it as C.pallida only

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Campanula pallida in FOI : 3 posts by 2 authors.

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In view of discussions in another thread with wonderful inputs provided by …, it will be better if we keep plants identified as either of the two as Campanula pallida

Campanula from Phulchowki Peak Nepal : 3 posts by 3 authors. Attachments (1)
The date is 6th Sept, elevation is 2600-2700 m

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Campanula pallida Wall.!

request for species id : 5 high resolution images.
please check attached images of Campanula, please verify species id, it looks pallida for me.

Yes, Campanula pallida as per images and details herein.

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SK 2984 23 September 2021: 6 very high res. images.
Location: Dailekh, West Nepal
Altitude: 1700 m.
Date: 13 August 2021
Habit : Wild
Campanula pallida Wall.?? Campanula cana Wall. ??

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Pl. see detailed discussions at Campanula pallida

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I hope C. cana, see my post
Campanulaceae & Gentianaceae Fortnight: Campanulaceae-Campanula cana from Manali-GSJUL02 (google.com)
If not anything else compare calyx lobes and other distinct characters I have mentioned.

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SK 3167 24 November 2021: 6 very high res. images.
Location: Mugu, Rara, West Nepal
Altitude: 2913m.
Date: 20 August 2021
Habit : Wild
Campanula pallida Wall. ??

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Yes, as per images at Campanula pallida

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Campanula pallida Wall.: 7 very high res. images.

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References for Campanula pallida Wall.:

POWO  efi thread  The Plant List Ver. 1.1  Catalogue of Life  Flora of China  Flora of Pakistan  FOP illustration  Checklist of Nepal