Magnolia quinquepeta x stellata ‘Jane’: 3 very high res. images.
Location: Kew, London, UK
Altitude: 19 m.
Date: 04 April 2022
Habit : Cultivated / Labeled
Habit : Cultivated / Labeled
Category: Magnoliaceae
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Magnolia quinquepeta x stellata ‘Jane’ (UK)
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Magnolia × loebneri (UK)
Magnolia × loebneri Kache, Gartenschönheit 1: 20 1920. ;
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Magnolia × loebneri “Leonard Messel’: 6 very high res. images.Location: Eden Project, Cornwall, UKAltitude: 60m.Date: 03 April 2022
Habit : Cultivated
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References:
POWO Catalogue of Life The Plant List Ver.1.1 WCSP IPNI -
Magnolia kisopa
Magnolia kisopa (Buch.-Ham. ex DC.) Figlar, Proc. Int. Symp. Magnoliac. 22 2000. (syn: Michelia doltsopa subsp. kisopa (Buch.-Ham. ex DC.) J.Li; Michelia kisopa Buch.-Ham. ex DC.; Michelia zila Buch.-Ham. ex Madden; Sampacca kisopa (Buch.-Ham. ex DC.) Kuntze);.Nepal to Vietnam: East Himalaya, India, Nepal, Tibet as per POWO;.Common name: Kisopa Magnolia • Garhwali: चाम Chaam • Kumaon: Chaur • Nepali: चोलसी Cholsi, बन चाँप Ban chanp.
Deciduous trees, about 10-18 m tall. Bark gray, plain with thin lenticelled branchlets, glabrous, stipular scars are prominent on the branchlets, buds grey, sericeous. Leaves simple, alternate, ovate-elliptic, lanceolate-elliptic or oblong, 12-24 × 3-10 cm across, base abruptly cuneate or rarely rounded, margin entire, apex acute or shallow acuminate, thinly coriaceous, shining glabrous above, paler dull, glabrous beneath, turning yellow before falling, lateral veins 10-15 on either side of the midrib, slightly arched towards the outer margins, reticulate veinlets very close and fine, petiole pubescent, about 1.5-3 cm long, stipules oblong, about 1.5 cm long, pubescent with grey or rusty brownish hairs, stipular scars usually about 1-2.5 cm long. Flowers bisexual, solitary, appearing with the leaves, white or cream or pale yellow, pleasantly fragrant, about 3-5 cm across, buds about 1.2 cm across, Perianth parts about 12-15, obovate-oblong or oblanceolate, apex truncate, glabrous, 2-3 x 0.5-0.8 cm across, Sepals narrow-obovate, petals scarcely narrower than the sepals. Stamens numerous, shorter than the gynoecium, carpels silky hairy, styles recurved, Gynoecium obovoid or ellipsoid, Fruiting receptacle 3-5 x 2 cm across. Fruiting carpels elliptic-ovoid, sessile, compressed, rounded near the base, with beaks near at the apex, about 8-11 x 6-7 mm across, seeds 3-4, glossy red, obovoid
Subtropical forests at an altitude of about 1400-1800 m.Local Distribution: Arunachal Pradesh, Assam, Meghalaya, Sikkim, Uttar Pradesh, West Bengal. Global Distribution: Asia: Bhutan, China, India, Nepal.(Attributions- Ganeshaiah, K. N., UAS, Bangalore, India. Kailash, B. R., UAS & ATREE, Bangalore, India. Indian Bioresource Information Network (IBIN), Department of Biotechnology, New Delhi, India as per India Biodiversity Portal)
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SK 2839 10 November 2020 : 8 very high resolution images.Location: Kathmandu Valley
Date: October 2020Elevation: 1350m.Habitat : WildMagnolia doltsopa (Buch.-Ham. ex DC.) Figlar ??Syn : Michelia doltsopa Buch.-Ham. ex DC.
I think they look different from Magnolia doltsopa (Buch.-Ham. ex DC.) Figlar as per images and details herein.
Also could not find a match as per comparative images at Magnolia. Pl. check other species as listed at this page from Checklist of Nepal.
I have already checked efloranepal.
I think this is Magnolia kisopa (Buch.-Ham. ex DC.) Figlar as per Keys in Flora of Nepal and GBIF specimens from Nepal:
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References:
POWO Catalogue of Life The Plant List Ver.1.1 WCSP IPNI GBIF (High resolution specimens) Specimen 1 Specimen 2 Flora of China FOC illustration Annotated checklist of Flowering plants of Nepal Flora of Nepal Flowers of India India Biodiversity Portal IBIS Flora Plant illustrations Bhutan Biodiversity Portal -
Magnolia species ?- Tura, Meghalaya
Request for Id : 6 posts by 2 authors. Attachments (2)
Pl identify the small tree or shrub from Tura (Meghalaya)
I think it is Tabernaemontana orientalis
I doubt if it matches with Tabernaemontana orientalis as per
Any idea about family ?
Is it from Magnoliaceae?
Thanks, …Some possibility is there as per comparative images at Magnolia
Hi, …, May I request you to pl. post high resolution image to see the details.
Magnolia champaca (L.) Baill. ex Pierre ??
This is not M.champaka. We have champaka trees here in plenty.
Magnolia champaca (L.) Baill. ex Pierre ??
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Magnolia punduana
Magnolia punduana (Hook.f. & Thomson) Figlar, Proc. Int. Symp. Magnoliac. 23 2000. (syn: Michelia punduana Hook.f. & Thomson; Sampacca punduana (Hook.f. & Thomson) Kuntze);Assam (Khasia Hills) as per WCSP;Common name: Pandua Magnolia
Magnolia punduana occurs in northeastern India, Bhutan and Bangladesh. T
his species is logged for timber and there have been no recent collections in the field. The habitat is also in decline because of deforestation for timber resources. More research is critically needed to establish the population trends and harvest rates for this species. This species was previously listed as Vulnerable however its known range has been extended outside of Meghalaya and as a result it no longer qualifies as Vulnerable. Due to the uncertainty of this species in both Bhutan and Bangladesh it has been listed as Data Deficient. More information is needed from these countries to make a full assessment.Magnolia punduana occurs in the northeast region of India in Arunachal Pradesh, Manipur, Nagaland, Sikkim and Meghalaya (Khasi Hills). It has also been recorded from in Bangladesh and Bhutan (Samchi district) however there are no herbarium specimens to confirm this species presence in these areas. The extent of occurrence (EOO) is calculated with much uncertainty as between 180,000 and 230,000 km2. The potential forest distribution, based on remote sensing imagery and species distribution data, is 19,436 km2 although this is likely to be based on its range in India alone. More research is needed to produce a more accurate current range for this species.Citation: Wheeler, L. & Rivers, M.C. 2015. Magnolia punduana. The IUCN Red List of Threatened Species 2015: e.T31237A2802522. http://dx.doi.org/10.2305/IUCN.UK.2015-2.RLTS.T31237A2802522.en. Downloaded on 15 January 2018.
Addition of Magnolia punduana to your website : 2 posts by 2 authors. Attachments (3)
Sending you some pictures of a rare tree Magnolia punduana from Meghalaya. Hope you like it and find it useful.
Thanks, …, for superb addition.
References:
Catalogue of Life The Plant List Ver.1.1 WCSP IPNI
Encyclopaedia of Life Flowers of India IUCN Red List (DD) ArkiveViheno Iralu, Krishna Upadhaya- Jott Vol 7, No 9 (2015) (Abstract: Magnolia punduana Hk. f & Th. belonging to family Magnoliaceae, is an important tree species endemic to Meghalaya, northeast India. This paper provides information on the distribution of the species in the state with special reference to its phenology. The result of the study reveals that habitat destruction and exploitation for timber are the major threats faced by the species. A few effective strategies for the conservation of the taxa have been suggested.) -
Magnolia rabaniana
Magnolia rabaniana (Hook.f. & Thomson) D.C.S.Raju & M.P.Nayar, Indian J. Bot. 3: 171 1980. (syn: Talauma rabaniana Hook.f. & Thomson);Sikkim to Myanmar as per WCSP;
Trees with a conical crown, about 50-70 ft tall, girth of about 4-6 ft. Bark dark gray, rough fibrous and uniformly light brown inside and 1.2-2 cm thick, branchlets tawny tomentose when young, glabrous when mature, nodes annulate. Leaves simple, alternate, oblanceolate-elliptic, lanceolate-oblong, 20-35 × 7-15 cm across, base cuneate or attentuate, margin entire, apex acute or shallow acuminate, coriaceous, dark green shining, glabrous above, paler beneath, lateral veins 12-24 on either side of the midrib, almost parallel, straight, impressed above, more prominent on midrib and prominent of veins beneath, reticulate veinlets, close and fine, petiole stout, about 2-3 cm long. Flowers bisexual, solitary, appearing with the leaves, white, odorous, about 5-7.5 cm across, pedicels about 1 cm thick, 2.5-3 cm long, bracts densely adpressed tomentose. Perianth parts about 12, Sepals 3, sub-orbicular, rough outside, caducous, Petals 9, in three whorls, broadly elliptic or obovate, concave, outer whorl reflexed after the fall of the sepals. Stamens numerous, filaments very short, anthers oblong, about 12-15 mm long, Gynoecium sessile, ellipsoid, Fruiting receptacle 6-12 x 3-4 cm across, Carpels about 20, compressed, rounded near the base, woody, dehiscent by the ventral suture, pits of the axis somewhat shallow, rhomboidal, elongated.Evergreen forests altitude up to 4,000 ft.Local Distribution: Arunachal Pradesh, Assam, Meghalaya, Mizoram. Global Distribution: Asia: IndiaLocal Endemicity: Northeast India. Global Endemicity: India.Attributions- Ganeshaiah, K. N., UAS, Bangalore, India. Kailash, B. R., UAS & ATREE, Bangalore, India. Indian Bioresource Information Network (IBIN), Department of Biotechnology, New Delhi, India. from India Biodiversity Portal)
Magnolia rabaniana is endemic to northeast India where it occurs in Assam, Sikkim and Meghalaya and possibly extends south into Myanmar. Specimens have been collected in the Khasi Hills between 4,000 and 5,000 feet but its elevation is recorded between 1,300 and 2,400 m asl (Kundu 2009).The forests of the Assam region have declined substantially in the area for shifting agriculture.A tree found in montane sub-tropical semi-evergreen forests, temperate evergreen broad-leaved forests and temperate or sub-alpine coniferous forests.
Rediscovery of Magnolia rabaniana (Magnoliaceae): A threatened tree : 1 post by 1 author. Attachments (1) – Magnolia rabaniana.pdfAnother good paper was published in the same issue of the journal which is attached forthwith.
References:
Catalogue of Life The Plant List Ver.1.1 WCSP IPNI
GBIF (with type specimen) BSI Flora of India India Biodiversity Portal IUCN Red List (DD) Rediscovery of Magnolia rabaniana (Magnoliaceae): A threatened tree species of Meghalaya, northeast India (Abstract- Magnolia rabaniana (Hook.f. & Th.) D.C.S. Raju & M.P. Nayar, a threatened and endemic tree species of northeast India, has been rediscovered after a lapse of almost 100 years from Khasi Hills of Meghalaya. A total of 65 individuals that includes 38 mature (≥ 5 cm diameter at breast height) and 27 young individuals (≤ 5 cm diameter at breast height) were recorded from five sites. The existing populations of the species are under severe threats due to a number of human disturbances and therefore warrant immediate conservation initiatives.) -
Magnolia hodgsonii
Magnolia hodgsonii (Hook.f. & Thomson) H.Keng, Gard. Bull. Singapore 31: 129 1978. (Syn: Talauma hodgsonii Hook.f. & Thomson);.
Magnolia hodgsonii (syn. Talauma hodgsonii), known in Chinese as Gai lie mu is a species of Magnolia native to the forests of the Himalaya and southeastern Asia, occurring in Bhutan, southwestern China (Xizang), northeastern India, northern Myanmar, Nepal, and Thailand. It grows at moderate altitudes of 850–1500 m with a subtropical climate.[2]
It is a small evergreen tree up to 15 m tall. The leaves are obovate-oblong, 20–50 cm long and 10–13 cm broad, with a leathery texture. The flowers are fragrant, with nine tepals up to 9 cm long, the inner tepals white, the outer ones greenish; they are produced in April to May. The fruit is 13–15 cm long, composed of an aggregate of 40-80 follicles.[2]The wood is “very soft and worthless”. Like almost all Himalayan Magnoliaceae, M. hodgsonii flourishes in a stiff clay soil.[3]
Small tree about with spreading branches. Bark greenish grey, warty or smooth with distant horizontal wrinkles with large white patches, inside the bark brownish yellow, fibrous about 0.5-0.8 cm thick. Leaves simple, alternate, oblanceolate-elliptic, oblong-obovate, 22-50 × 10-22 cm across, base acute or cuneate, margin entire, apex acute or shallow acuminate, coriaceous, thin, slightly glabrous reddish brown when young, lateral veins 15-25 on either side of the midrib, almost parallel, impressed above, more prominent on midrib and prominent of veins beneath, reticulate veinlets, petiole swollen at the base, about 2.5-7 cm long, stipules pilose, faint stipular scars usually as long the entire length of petiole. Flowers bisexual, solitary, terminal appearing with the leaves, white or pale pink, fragrant, never fully blooming, about 7-10 cm across, buds about 2.5-7 cm across, Perianth parts about 9-12, Sepals 3, oblong, apex obtuse, reddish purple or greenish white, fleshy, about 3 x 2.5 cm across, Petals 6-9, whitish yellow, grayish velvety, about 2.5 x 1.5 cm across, connective produced beyond anthers, apex acute, glabrous. Stamens numerous, light reddish violet, Gynoecium obovoid or ellipsoid, carpels sessile, glabrous, closing embracing and imbricating on gynophore, Fruiting receptacle ellipsoid, about 10-16 x 5-9 cm across, ripe carpels elliptic-ovoid, sharply beaked, woody, dehiscent by the ventral side, separating from the axis, about 3-4 cm long, seeds about 3-4 in a carpel, compressed, obovoid, planoconvex, glossy, red, about 1 cm long.
Evergreen forests altitude up to 3500 ft.Local Distribution: Assam, Arunachal Pradesh, Himachal Pradesh, Manipur, Meghalaya, Mizoram, Sikkim, West Bengal. Global Distribution: Asia: Bangladesh, Bhutan, India, Myanmar, Nepal.
(Attributions– Ganeshaiah, K. N., UAS, Bangalore, India. Kailash, B. R., UAS & ATREE, Bangalore, India. Indian Bioresource Information Network (IBIN), Department of Biotechnology, New Delhi, India from India Biodiversity Portal)
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id pl-Manipur flora 1 : 4 posts by 2 authors. Attachments (3)
Id pl.
Tree was seen in the outskirts of Imphal.
Its local name is `Neel Kamal`
This is Magnolia hodgsonii.
It may be Magnolia hodgsonii.
Nepali Name : भालु काठ Bhaalu Kaath
Plants from Northeast Tour 2017- Magnolia hodgsonii for validation : 4 posts by 2 authors. Attachments (5)
This massive tree was shot from near Arunachal border in Assam, the place named Bhalukpong… it was seen quite frequently in the forest..
Identification received for this is Magnolia hodgsonii which is quite convincing..
The eFI page here depicts only flowers, this will be supplemented by fruit images..!!
I think matches with illustration at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talauma_hodgsonii.jpg
Yes This is magnolia hogdsonii.
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Magnolia species- London
Fwd: Pls help I’d the tree from this fruit : 4 posts by 2 authors. Attachments (1)
May have been taken in Delhi.
Magnolia (Michelia) champaca.
It’s taken in London
Then, it could be a different species of Magnolia.
Pl check it for M. soulangiana and see if the leaf/flower characters (if observed) match.
http://www.hort.uconn.edu/plants/detail.php?pid=281
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Magnolia × alba (Cultivated)
Magnolia ×alba (DC.) Figlar, Proc. internat. symp. fam. Magnoliac. 21. 2000 (“1998”) (Syn: (≡) Michelia ×alba DC. (basionym));
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Hooghly : possibly Michelia ×alba Candolle : 6 posts by 2 authors. Attachments (5).
Until a little while ago I knew this is Michelia champaca L., the scientific name of CHAMPA. But the KEY in FoC and an article drew my attention.
Please solve the puzzle lest I may be tempted to shoot out a name of plant I had photographed in SFO Botanical Garden
Any way it is there in our forum.
Didn’t imagine this simple very fragrant flower can invite so much puzzle! … informs that it might be M. alba.- Naming issue :-
Michelia alba DC. – TPL recognizes but GRIN or FoC doesn’t, while another document from China does accept – http://www.jse.ac.cn/wenzhang/aps06137.pdf. According to this particular pdf file – 1) stipular scar nearly to half of petiole = alba 2) stipular scar longer than half of petiole = champaca . Unfortunately none of my photographs shows clear stipular scars (I was outside the boundary wall!).Michelia x alba (DC.) Figlar – GRIN & FoC accept but TPL doesn’t. TopTropicals features it and at the same time it features one M. champaca var. alba (please scroll down the page)!M. x alba – 10 in FoC, but variable in TopTropicles. Again my photographs are not decisive about the number of tepals, one perhaps shows 12 tepals.The issue has been raised in another forum – http://forums.gardenweb.com/fragrant/msg0. However, another interesting document/pdf is at http://members.tripod.com/hatch_l/woodymi5d.pdf which groups alba, x alba and var, alba together and the species – (i) tepals very narrow, linear to lanceolate, twisted, spidery effect (ii) leaves medium to light green against other spp. Yet another article informs flowers are zygomorphic irregular in alba and zygomorphic with bilateral symmetry in champaca.So, finally I think this plant is not M. champaca L. and would like to follow GRIN or FoC naming convention.
Thank you very much.
1 image.
I think yes, and not really developing carpel region.
Thank you Sir. I will try to visit the plant after a month or two, to see if fruit develops. Also would try to get close photographs of leaf for stipular scar.
I am very sorry that I am too late to revisit this tree. This tree has again started flowering, only a few though, hiding behind leaves (couldn’t photograph). However, I met the owner and she says this tree doesn’t produce fruits. Will try to recheck again. Meanwhile attached here a few photographs of leaves and petioles. To me leaves also seemed to be fragrant!
5 images.
Magnolia x alba ?? : 3 posts by 2 authors. Attachments (3)Location: Chitwan, NepalAltitude: 600 ft.Date: 9 August 2014
Magnolia for id: 3 high res. images.
Request for I’d of a Magnolia cultivated in Bilaspur. Photographed in August, 2022.
Magnolia ×alba (DC.) Figlar
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References:
GRIN The Plant List Ver.1.1 Tropicos Wikipedia -
Magnolia ‘Elizabeth’
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Magnolia stellata (Cultivated- USA)
Magnolia stellata (Siebold & Zucc.) Maxim., Bull. Acad. Imp. Sci. Saint-Pétersbourg 17: 418 1872. (Syn: Buergeria stellata Siebold & Zucc.; Magnolia halleana auct.; Magnolia keiskei (Makino) Ihrig; Magnolia kobus f. rosea (Veitch ex Hu) Blackburn; Magnolia kobus var. stellata (Siebold & Zucc.) Blackburn; Magnolia kobus f. stellata (Siebold & Zucc.) Blackburn; Magnolia kobus f. stellata (Siebold & Zucc.) Maxim.; Magnolia rosea (Veitch ex Hu) Ihrig; Magnolia simii Siebold ex Miq.; Magnolia sinostellata P.L.Chiu & Z.H.Chen; Magnolia stellata var. keiskei Makino; Magnolia stellata var. rosea Veitch ex Hu; Talauma stellata (Siebold & Zucc.) Miq.; Yulania sinostellata (P.L.Chiu & Z.H.Chen) D.L.Fu; Yulania stellata (Maxim.) N.H.Xia);
Magnolia stellata, sometimes called the star magnolia, is a slow-growing shrub or small tree native to Japan.
It bears large, showy white or pink flowers in early spring, before its leaves open.This species is closely related to the Kobushi magnolia (Magnolia kobus), and is treated by many botanists as a variety or even a cultivar of that. However, Magnolia stellata was accepted as a distinct species in the 1998 monograph by Hunt.[1]This tree grows 4.6 to 6 m (15 to 20 ft) in height, spreading to 4.6m in width at maturity. Young trees display upright oval growth, but the plants spread and mound with age.[2]The tree blooms at a young age, with the slightly fragrant 7–10 cm (3–4 in) flowers covering the bare plant in late winter or early spring before the leaves appear. There is natural variation within the flower color, which varies from white to rich pink; the hue of pink magnolias also changes from year to year, depending on day and night air temperatures prior to and during flowering. The flowers are star-shaped, with at least 12 thin, delicate petal-like tepals—some cultivars have more than 30. The leaves open bronze-green, turning to deep green as they mature, and yellow before dropping in autumn. They are oblong and about 4 in (10 cm) long by about an 1.5 in (4 cm) wide.These magnolias produce a reddish-green, knobby aggregate fruit about 2 in long that matures and opens in early autumn. Mature fruit opens by slits to reveal orange-red seeds, but the fruits often drop before developing fully.Young twigs have smooth, shiny chestnut brown bark, while the main trunks have smooth, silvery gray bark. Like the saucer magnolia (Magnolia × soulangeana), it is deciduous, revealing a twiggy, naked frame in winter. Plants have thick, fleshy roots which are found fairly close to the surface and do not tolerate much disturbance.(From Wikipedia on 21.3.11)
Dilleniaceae, Magnoliaceae and Annonaceae Fortnight :: Magnoliaceae – Magnolia stellata – Michigan, USA :: AKMAR-11 : 4 posts by 3 authors. Attachments (5).
Attached are pictures of Magnolia stellata captured from Michigan, USA in May 2013.Requested to please validate ID.
Wow..Snow white… Nice collection..
Tree for ID : Atlanta, Georgia : 14JAN19 : AK-24 : 6 posts by 4 authors. Attachments (4)
A small tree seen in a cultivated garden during my visit in Oct,18.
This is a Magnolia but I cannot say which one. Possibly M. stellata?
Thanks … I will try searching further.
large leaf? tend to have blah flowers. all energy to leaves
I agree with … id of Magnolia stellata as per
Thanks … And thanks to … for the id. Wish I was lucky to see the flowers.
References:
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Magnolia liliifera (Cultivated)
Magnolia liliifera (L.) Baill., Hist. Pl. 1: 141 1868. (Syn: Aromadendron oreadum (Diels) Kaneh. & Hatus.; Blumia candollei Nees [Invalid]; Liriodendron liliiferum L.; Magnolia andamanica (King) D.C.S.Raju & M.P.Nayar; Magnolia andamanica King [Invalid]; Magnolia candollei (Blume) H.Keng [Illegitimate]; Magnolia craibiana Dandy; Magnolia eriostepta var. poilanei Dandy ex Humbert [Invalid]; Magnolia forbesii King [Invalid]; Magnolia kunstleri King [Invalid]; Magnolia mutabilis (Blume) H.J.Chowdhery & P.Daniel; Magnolia odoratissima Reinw. ex Blume [Invalid]; Magnolia pachyphylla Dandy; Magnolia poilanei (Dandy ex Humbert) Callaway [Invalid]; Magnolia pulgarensis Dandy; Magnolia pumila Andrews; Magnolia rumphii (Blume) Spreng.; Magnolia splendens Reinw. ex Blume [Invalid]; Magnolia thamnodes Dandy; Manglietia celebica Miq.; Manglietia sebassa King; Manglietia thamnodes (Dandy) Gagnep.; Talauma andamanica King; Talauma athliantha Dandy; Talauma borneensis Merr.; Talauma candollei Blume; Talauma candollei var. latifolia Blume; Talauma celebica Koord.; Talauma forbesii King; Talauma gitingensis Elmer ..; Talauma gracilior Dandy; Talauma inflata P.Parm.; Talauma javanica P.Parm.; Talauma kunstleri King; Talauma liliifera (L.) Kurz; Talauma liliifera (L.) Kuntze; Talauma longifolia (Blume) Ridl.; Talauma macrophylla Blume ex Miq.; Talauma miqueliana Dandy; Talauma mutabilis Blume …; Talauma nhatrangensis Dandy; Talauma oreadum Diels; Talauma pulgarensis Elmer; Talauma pumila (Andrews) Blume; Talauma reticulata Merr.; Talauma rubra Miq.; Talauma rumphii Blume; Talauma sebassa (King) Miq. ex Dandy; Talauma soembensis Dandy; Talauma sumatrana A.Agostini; Talauma thamnodes (Dandy) Tiep; Talauma undulatifolia A.Agostini);.Common name: Egg Magnolia • Hindi: हिम चम्पा Him Champa • Manipuri: ঊথম্বাল Oothambal.
Magnolia: 1 image.
A Magnolia bud from my garden in Bangalore, taken yesterday. Sadly the bud fell off soon after, before blooming. This is the third time it has happened.
Can any of the members advise on how to prevent this.
Looks more like Talauma mutabilis but I am not sure how to prevent the premature bud fall
Spray planofix (2ml in one litre of water) at the beginning of flowering i.e. initiation of buds once a week to prevent fall of buds. This is available in agro-chemicals shop.
thank you … will be useful for all those that have plnats in gardens, balcony, rooftop terrace… etc
MS191111-68 — Magnolia species-: 3 images.I am sending herewith the photographs of Magnolia species (M. grandiflora ?) for confirmation.
Photos taken in a park in Mysore on 6.11.2011.
Not Magnolia grandiflora at least
Magnolia liliifera (L.) Baill. is the current name. syn Talauma mutabilis. This is a shrub with much smaller flowers than M. grandiflora. The leaves are not coriaceous and golden brown beneath.
Yes …, now Magnolia liliifera.
Egg Magnolia is a medium size tree with large velvet leaves and fragrant yellowish off-white flowers about 4-5″ wide.It is found in North-East India – Assam, Manipur, Sikkim.Before opening, buds have an egg shape, hence the common name.One of the most valuable ornamental fragrant trees of Asia.A highly valued fragrant flower of this small tree or shrub resembles Dwarf Magnolia flower, but the scent is much stronger. Leaves are large, 7-9 inches long and 4 inches wide.Can be grown in container in a well-lit spot.Egg Magnolia is similar to Dwarf Magnolia, as both species have those egg shaped flowerbuds, but Dwarf Magnolia flowers are white.Requesting ID of this plant from Mumbai : 16042013 : ARK-01 : Attachments (4). 4 posts by 2 authors.
Requesting ID of this plant found in a cultivate garden in Mumbai in Apr 2013
Dilleniaceae, Magnoliaceae and Annonaceae Fortnight :: Magnoliaceae – Magnolia liliifera from Mumbai :: AKMAR-07 : Attachments(5). 1 post by 1 author.
Attached are pictures of Magnolia liliifera from Mumbai in April 2013.
This has been posted and identified on this forum.
Dilleniaceae, Magnoliaceae and Annonaceae Fortnight : Talauma mutabilis : Kodaikanal : 110314 : AK-5 : Attachments (1). 2 posts by 2 authors.
Posted on our group earlier and identified by …
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24th of October, 2008/ 10.06 am: Kodaikanal; Magnolia for ID : 200310-AK-3 – efloraofindia | Google Groups
Dilleniaceae, Magnoliaceae and Annonaceae Fortnight : Magnolia For ID : Lalbagh,Bangalore : 110314 : AK-3 : Attachments (2). 3 posts by 2 authors.
Magnolia seen in Lalbagh, Bangalore in November, 2013.
Didn’t see the buds open, they would fall off as they are seen here.
A small, cultivated tree.
Magnolia liliiflora?
Magnolia liliifera, (L.) Baill. <=> Egg Magnolia Tree
Dilleniaceae, Magnoliaceae and Annonaceae Fortnight : Magnoliaceae::Talauma mutabilis :: SMP06 : 3 posts by 3 authors. 1 image.
Talauma mutabilis कवठी चाफा Pune
Dilleniaceae, Magnoliaceae and Annonaceae Fortnight : Magnolia liliiflora-Yellow : For Validation : Jijamata Udyan,Mumbai : 110314 : AK-4 : 5 posts by 2 authors. Attachments (3).
Magnolia liliiflora seen at the plant nursery.
Kindly validate.
Thanks …
Dilleniaceae, Magnoliaceae and Annonaceae Fortnight: Magnoliaceae-07032014AJK1 From: Shripadwadi-June 2013 : 7 posts by 4 authors. 3 images.
Requesting to please identify this Magnolia (Local name: कवठी चाफा), photographed in June 2013, at Shripadwadi – a small village near Gadhinglaj, Dist Kolhapur, Maharashtra)
Very good photographs. Would be interesting to know its ID.
Check for Talauma grandiflora of Magnoliaceae
Appears to be Magnolia liliifera
Thanks for confirming the id.
MAGNOLIA LILIIFERA ( EGG MAGNOLIA ) : 4 posts by 4 authors. Attachments (5)
Attaching four images and a collage of Magnolia liliifera (EGG MAGNOLIA).
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Magnolia id please: 3 images.
Shot in Neighbours’ garden, Bangalore
id help appreciated
Magnolia grandiflora
Not Magnolia grandiflora please
Should be Talauma mutabilis
I had not come across the name Talauma mutabilis before.
Cannot keep up with all the name changes!
It might be better known under the old name Magnolia lilifera var lilifera.
http://www.google.co.uk/search
Better than that…
I need to see the open flower and preferably the fruit pod shape…. there is a bewildering number of hybrids…
It does not open completely mam. This is a very short lived flower..the petals fall off the very next day..
then its not a magnolia grandiflora…
ps… take pictures of what remains after the petals fall off and do a follow up … watch the tree…to see what develops…
it may be?? Egg Magnolia (Talauma candollei)
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/showimage/165898/
cant tell!
need to see the tree, leaves, bark, habit, and most essentially the seedpod…
i dont want to play a guessing game…. wont be accurate….
people who specialize in magnolias and their hybridization and take it very seriously would laugh at us …. because we would be very far from the base…
just like a gland made up of malignant cells is an adeno…
but of what organ of orirgin??? … cant be forecast with any accuracy… quite the same with just the small flower portrait, it does not lend itself to a firm diagnosis…
This is Magnolia liliifera (L.) Baill.
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Magnolia liliiflora (Cultivated)
Magnolia liliiflora Desr., Encycl. 3: 675 1792. (Syn: Lassonia quinquepeta Buc’hoz; Magnolia atropurpurea Steud.; Magnolia discolor Vent.; Magnolia gracilis Salisb.; Magnolia liliiflora var. gracilis (Salisb.) Rehder; Magnolia liliiflora var. nigra (G.Nicholson) Rehder; Magnolia liliiflora f. nigra (G.Nicholson) Geerinck; Magnolia obovata var. liliiflora (Desr.) Ser.; Magnolia obovata var. purpurea (Curtis) Ser.; Magnolia plena C.L.Peng & L.H.Yan; Magnolia polytepala Y.W.Law, R.Z.Zhou & R.J.Zhang; Magnolia purpurea Curtis; Magnolia purpurea var. discolor (Vent.) Loudon; Magnolia purpurea var. liliiflora (Desr.) Loudon; Magnolia quinquepeta (Buc’hoz) Dandy; Magnolia × soulangeana var. nigra G.Nicholson; Talauma sieboldii Miq.; Yulania japonica Spach; Yulania japonica var. purpurea (Curtis) P.Parm.; Yulania liliiflora (Desr.) D.L.Fu);.
Magnolia liliiflora (variously known by many names, including Mulan magnolia, Purple magnolia, Red magnolia, Lily magnolia, Tulip magnolia, Jane magnolia and Woody-orchid) is a small tree native to southwest China (in Sichuan and Yunnan), but cultivated for centuries elsewhere in China and also Japan. It was first introduced to English-speaking countries from cultivated Japanese origins, and is thus also sometimes called Japanese magnolia, though it is not native to Japan. It is now also planted as an ornamental in North America and Europe, though rather less often than its popular hybrid (see below). The name Yulania liliiflora is a synonym.
It is a deciduous shrub, exceptionally a small tree, to 4m tall (smaller than most other magnolias), and blooms profusely in early spring with large pink to purple showy flowers, before the leaf buds open.(From Wikipedia on 17.3.14).– Some picture of the same plant from Vancouver.
– This is the ‘State Flower’ for both Mississippi and Louisiana states.
– in NY its called tulip tree ( not to be mistaken for the yellow flowered tulip tree: Liriodendron tulipifera)…
NY Bot garden as in Bronx bot garden (the same thing) has a grove of many varieties, all flowering just about now… worth at least one visit if you happen to be in NY for april…. a Sight to behold and store away for a life time…
Magnolia liliiflora from Kashmir:
Magnolia liliiflora Descr., J. B. A. P. M. de Lamarck, Encycl. 3:675. 1792Common names: Purple magnolia, red magnolia, woody orchid.
A comparatively recent introduction in Kashmir, now commonly planted in Moghul Gardens and private gardens in kashmir, with its distinctive reddish lily like flowers and shining green leaves.
Magnolia for Bot. ID- California -050711 RK – 1:
Magnolia for ID.
Photos taken at different times between 4th March 2011 to 27th April. Last 2 taken in the afternoon.
Location – Home – Los Altos -[next to Palo Alto – close to San Francisco ]
Habitat – Garden
Mild fragrance.
I think it is Magnolia liliiflora.
I think you are right, this is the ‘Tulip” tree magnolia that we have
in the NE states, blooms are spectacular, jjust as the snow melts and spring thinks its coming,often its April 1st… so I think you are right…
But …how does one decide …
Since there INNUMBERABLE hybrids of Magnolia…. how does one really know which is it?
It can also be
Magnolia X soulangeana a cultivar, a cross between Magnolia liliflora and Magnolia denudata.
One such tree is present in San Francisco botanical garden.
http://www.sfbotanicalgarden.org/Gardens/bloom_11_02.shtml
Yes Magnolia liliiflora
Saw lot many trees in Gardens in Kashmir this year, also uploaded it.
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Requesting id 20042012 ASP 01:
Please find attached photos of flowering plant from Shalimar Garden, Srinagar, J & K photographed during third week of March. Requesting id.
I think this is a hybrid Magnolia. Very common here in garden.
Magnolia liliiflora
Dilleniaceae, Magnoliaceae and Annonaceae Fortnight: Magnoliaceae- Magnolia liliiflora from Kashmir-GSMAR3 : 3 posts by 2 authors. Attachments(5).
Magnolia liliiflora Descr., J. B. A. P. M. de Lamarck, Encycl. 3:675. 1792
Common names: Purple magnolia, red magnolia, woody orchid.
A comparatively recent introduction in Kashmir, now commonly planted in Moghul Gardens and private gardens in Kashmir, with its distinctive reddish lily like flowers and shining green leaves.
Very beautiful images Sir.. a handsome plant..
Dilleniaceae, Magnoliaceae and Annonaceae Fortnight: Magnoliaceae- Magnolia liliiflora from California-GSMAR4 : 1 post by 1 author. Attachments (2).
Magnolia liliiflora Descr., J. B. A. P. M. de Lamarck, Encycl. 3:675. 1792
Photographed from Sunnyvale, California
Dilleniaceae, Magnoliaceae and Annonaceae Fortnight :: Magnoliaceae – For ID – Pink Magnolia from Michigan, USA :: AKMAR-10 : 3 posts by 2 authors. Attachments (3).
Attached are pictures of a pink Magnolia captured from Michigan, USA in May 2013.
Requested to please provide ID.
Perhaps same Magnolia liliiflora
Thank you … for the ID….
Your ID confused me because I had earlier posted Magnolia liliifera (kavathi chapha) and this looked much different…..After a lot of googling, I realised my mistake, the ID of my tree posted in this post is M. liliiflora and not M. liliifera……..What a stupid mistake…. 🙂The efi page for Magnolia liliiflora (/species/m—z/m/magnoliaceae/magnolia/magnolia-liliiflora) too contains posts relating to M. liliifera…..Does this need to change?
Dilleniaceae, Magnoliaceae and Annonaceae Fortnight :: Magnoliaceae – For ID from Michigan, USA :: AKMAR-09 : Attachments (5). 3 posts by 2 authors.
Attached are pictures of a Magnolia captured from Michigan, USA in May 2013.
Requested to please provide ID.
Perhaps Magnolia liliiflora.
Thank you … for ID….
Dilleniaceae, Magnoliaceae and Annonaceae Fortnight : Magnolia liliiflora : Kodaikanal : 120314 : AK-9 : Attachments (3). 1 post by 1 author.
Magnolia liliiflora seen at Kodaikanal
Lighter flowers, broader petals (length breadth ratio) longer sepals and more important presence of lot of leaves suggest M. × soulangiana
Different sites give different information.
It may be due to many hybrids developed over the years.
Pl. see POWO (Magnolia × soulangeana Soul.-Bod.), POWO (Magnolia liliiflora Desr.),Only Magnolia liliiflora Desr. is listed as per Flora of Peninsular India and is cultivated in Tamilnadu hills.
Distribution given in different Databases is not updated and reliable. For example, you can find M. × soulangiana in almost all nurseries in Dehradun.
Being mostly cultivated, distribution given in databases should not be a big issue.
Dilleniaceae, Magnoliaceae and Annonaceae Fortnight : Magnolia liliiflora : Bhimtal : 110314 : AK-2 : Attachments (4). 3 posts by 2 authors.
A cultivated, garden plant seen at a resort in Bhimtal, Uttarakhand.
Magnolia liliiflora Desr. (accepted name) : 4 posts by 3 authors. Attachments (2)Location: Kakani , NepalAltitude: 6000 ft.Date: 2 March 2013
Yes … Seems very common in many places. I have clicked from Kashmir, here in Sunnyvale California and only yesterday here in Fremont, California.
Flower for Id( from Bhutan) -ID22032018SH2 – Magnolia ? : 7 posts by 3 authors. Attachments (5)Flower for id pl.- Is it some Magnolia Sp. ?
Location – Paro (Bhutan)
Date – March. 2018
Pl. check /species/m—z/m/magnoliaceae/magnolia
I think it can be Magnolia liliiflora, a very beautiful small tree..
Sharing few shots recorded from Company Bagh, Mussoorie..
Attachments (7)Magnolia soulangeana Soul.-Bod. : 9 posts by 5 authors. Attachments (6)Location: Godawari, NepalDate: 18 April 2018Altitude: 5000 ft.Habit: CultivatedNepali Name : निल कमल Nil Kamal
Perhaps Magnolia Liliiflora ? M.soulangeana does’nt have the same fruit i believe…
Initially I thought the same but while going through the label :Or they might have wrongly labelled!
I also agree with …Matches better with images at Magnolia liliiflora Desr.rather than those of Magnolia soulangeana Soul.-Bod. (sepals are also different) at the following:
Yes …, the garden people have corrected it as Magnolia liliiflora Desr. Thank you … for pointing out.
4 June 2019
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23rd of October, 2008/ 3.48 pm :SHRIL, Kodaikanal: 2100 meters; Magnolia for ID: 180310-AK-1 – efloraofindia | Google Groups
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ID JK 22: 1 high res. image.
Please identify this tree from Srinagar in Kashmir. 14/9/24.
Ficus ??
Castanea sativa Mill.
Cultivated tree
Looks different from Net images
Not Castanea sativa which has Sharply serrate leaves. Looks like Magnolia liliiflora in bud (sepals as long as petals, pubescent outside)
Magnolia looks close as suggested by …
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References:
The Plant List Ver.1.1 WCSP GRIN Flowers of India India Biodiversity Portal Wikipedia PFAF -
Liriodendron chinense (Cultivated- USA)
Liriodendron chinense (Hemsl.) Sarg., Trees & Shrubs 1: 103 1903. (syn: Liriodendron tulipifera var. chinense Hemsl.; Liriodendron tulipifera var. sinense Diels [Spelling variant]);
Liriodendron chinense, the Chinese tulip tree, is Asia’s native species in the Liriodendron genus. This native of central and southern China grows in the provinces of Anhui, Guangxi, Jiangsu, Fujian, Guizhou, Hubei, Hunan, Jiangxi, Shaanxi, Zhejiang, Sichuan and Yunnan, and also locally in northern Vietnam.
Liriodendron chinense is very similar to the American species, Liriodendron tulipifera, differing in the often slightly larger and more deeply lobed leaves, and in the shorter inner petals in the flowers, which lack the orange pigment of L. tulipifera. The Chinese tulip tree reaches about 40 metres (130 ft) tall.[1]It is not as hardy as the American species, but is cultivated on other continents as an ornamental tree.(From Wikipedia on 15.3.14
Dilleniaceae, Magnoliaceae and Annonaceae Fortnight: Magnoliaceae- Liriodendron chinense from California-GSMAR9 : Attachments (2). 2 posts by 2 authors.Liriodendron chinense (Hemsl.) Sarg.Deciduous tree with distinct leaves having truncate to slightly cordate base with often two basal lobes and bilobed apex.Photographed from California.
Liriodendron chinense : For Validation : California : 06NOV14 : AK-17 : 7 posts by 3 authors. Attachments (3)Liriodendron Species, probably chinense, seen in Sacramento on 7/10/14.Ornamental tree.For validation.
without the flower cant be differentiated so easily, unless one has lots of leaves of both the tulip trees .. or even some newly emerging shoots and darker leaves
we will have to be satisfied with the genera id...ps unless you do have the flowers pic that you have not found yet…
Thanks for your feedback.My suggested id was based on … post on efloraDilleniaceae, Magnoliaceae and Annonaceae Fortnight: Magnoliaceae- Liriodendron chinense from California-GSMAR9I was not lucky to see the flower.Based on leaf shape, I had suggested the id above.
i am uncomfortable without flowersleaves can do a lot of things
shape change is one of them
Yes L. chinense, truncated upper part of leaf (as if cut with scissors) is distinctive. Here are some for comparison.
all poplar leaves have that cut with a scissors look. some more flat than others, but that’s their hall mark… that’s how one knows that they are standing under a poplar three
Thanks for validation.My suggested id was based on reference of your pictures.
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Magnolia virginiana (USA)
Magnolia virginiana L., Sp. Pl. 535 1753. (Syn: Magnolia australis var. parva (Ashe) Ashe; Magnolia burchelliana Steud.; Magnolia fragrans Salisb.; Magnolia fragrans Raf. [Illegitimate]; Magnolia glauca (L.) L. …..; Magnolia gordoniana Steud.; Magnolia virginiana var. glauca L. ……);
Dilleniaceae, Magnoliaceae and Annonaceae Fortnight: Magnoliaceae- Magnolia virginiana from California-GSMAR11: 1 post by 1 author. Attachments (1).
Magnolia virginiana L.evergreen to deciduous tree often with multitrunks, leaves elliptic to obovate up to 20 cm long, with large up to 5 cm long; flowers fragrant 5-8 cm across, creamy-white with 2 spathaceous bracts.Photographed from California.
Tree for ID : Atlanta Botanical Garden : Atlanta, Georgia : 31DEC18 : AK-42 : 5 posts by 3 authors. Attachments (3)Tree seen in the garden in October.
Difficult to tell from the image but look at Magnolia.
Your guess was correct.The garden’s Planthotline has suggested Magnolia virginiana.
Magnolia Species for ID : New York : 07AUG19 : AK-17 : 5 posts by 3 authors. Attachments (3)Magnolia Species seen in a park in Manhattan.A very small tree.
Magnolia virginiana L. ??
It may be one of the Sweet Bay Magnolia:
https://garden.org/plants/search/text/?q=sweet+bay+magnolia
Magnolia Species for ID : New Jersey : 19SEP19 : AK-08 : 8 posts by 3 authors. Attachments (6)Magnolia Species seen in a cultivated garden in New Jersey in June,2017.
Magnolia virginiana ??
Thanks for the id. I recollect to have seen a similar plant in New York.
could be but..there are many hybrids too and hybrids have abounded since 1800s. so one has to be careful. it seems to be sweetbay magnolia. i.e. magnolia virginianadid you smell the scent even from a little away? was it swamy/ near a pond etc? one stem or multiple stems. bark what did it look like? have any pictures? habitat picture?but must look at all details and look at the flora of North America and match it upfor details of m. virginiana
These are all the pictures I have. Also, couldn’t go closer to the tree. All the pictures have been taken by zooming.
well, if you were far … than it would have been possible to get habit photo butin the excitement of finding magnolia flowers we all sometimes forget the tree trunk and habit photos or we are too close to get habit pic we may have to cross the street or walk all the way back on a lawn or something which is not always possible. I understand that happens to me all the time. but you should try to get bark pic and base of the tree pic from now on.ANYWAY MATCH YOUR FLOWER AND LEAVES WITH THE FLORA OF NORTH AMERICA LINK I GAVE YOU.and then tell me what you found.
Thanks … Looks close to Magnolia virginiana only.
Ok, thanks.
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Magnolia doltsopa
IUCN Red List Status: Data Deficient (DD)
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Magnolia doltsopa (Buch.-Ham. ex DC.) Figlar, Proc. Int. Symp. Magnoliac. 21 2000. (Syn: Magnolia excelsa Wall.; Magnolia excelsa Jacques [Illegitimate]; Michelia calcuttensis P.Parm.; Michelia doltsopa Buch.-Ham. ex DC.; Michelia excelsa (Wall.) Blume; Michelia manipurensis Watt ex Brandis; Michelia wardii Dandy; Sampacca excelsa (Wall.) Kuntze);
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Common name: Temple Magnolia, Doltsopa, Sweet Michelia • Manipuri: লৈহাও লাইসঙ Leihao-laisang
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Michelia doltsopa, closely related to the magnolia and known as Sweet Michelia, is a large shrub or tree native to the eastern Himalayan region and the Meghalaya subtropical forests in India.[1]
The wood is fragrant.[2]The plant varies in form from bushy to narrow and upright, can grow to a height of 30 metres (98 ft) tall. The tree flowers in spring and produces heavily scented white flowers. It has long leathery and glossy dark-green leaves, 6–17 centimetres (2.4–6.7 in) in length, that provide a point of interest all year long. The wood is a rich brown.[3]The “Silver Cloud” variety grows to 15 feet and flowers earlier in its lifespan.[4]Michelia doltsopa is used as a featured ornamental tree and street tree, or pruned as a hedge. It enjoys a sheltered position in full or part sun, and appreciates well drained soil.[5] It can tolerate acidic soil.[4]In Nepal, the wood of the Michelia doltsopa is used for house building.[2] It is also used for house building in Bhutan, where in the 1980s it suffered from over-harvesting.[3]The Michelia doltsopa is useful in a Shifting cultivation system, which relies on species with “good nitrogen fixation in soil”.[6]
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Magnolia doltsopa (Buch.-Ham. ex DC.) Figlar: 7 very high res. images.Location: Panchase, Pokhara, NepalDate: 14 March 2024Elevation: 2055m.Habitat: Wild
My photographs taken in the Neora Valley National Park (mixed thread) : 6 correct images as above.
My photographs taken in the Neora Valley National Park, but presume they are of Magnolia campbelli.
I’m used to seeing M. campbellii (here in the US) as a pink-flowered tree.
Could yours be M. doltsopa (Michelia doltsopa)?
I think you are right M campbellii has pink colour flowers. You guess M doltsopa is quite justified!!
Thanks … Will go with what you’ll say.
Thank You for your mail with Michelia doltsopa plant.
Photographs are really good to identify it.
Following is the identification kids:
1. Nepalese call it as “Sweto-Chanp“–now valley with its white flowers
2. tall Trees up to 20 meter.
3. bar: dark grey
4. Flowers axillary, faintly scented, white, c. 10-14 cm across when fully open
5. perianths parts—approx. 12, obovate to spatulate
Flowering: Late February to April
Distribution in India: Eastern Himalaya (Darjeeling, Sikkim, Arunachal Pradesh) and NE States (Meghalaya, Manipur & NAGALAND).
Altitudinal ranges: 1400-2600 meter
Taxonomic identity:
Michelia doltsopa Buch.-Ham. ex DC., Syst. Nat. 1: 448. 1818 (Correct Name).
Synonyms: Michelia excelsa Wall.; Michelia excelsa (Wall.) Bl.; Michelia manipurensis Watt ex Brandis; Michelia calcuttensis Parment. (all will be italics)
… that posted by … is Michelia doltsopa??
He has only commented on … pictures which I forwarded.
A tree from East Sikkim for ID: 12 posts by 3 authors. Attachments (3)
Though the photographs are not good, any suggestion is welcome.
This tree (about 6 m high) was observed in East Sikkim, Fambong Lho WLS, in subtropical forests at about 6500 feet altitude.
Meliaceae?
A species of Michelia/ Magnolia
I agree with … Thank you. Now let us try for the species.
Looks like Magnoliaceae family. Kndly chk for Magnolia spp.
Overlooked suggestion of … Sorry. Now I forwarded this to … who is also an expert on this group apart from Lamiaceae.
Pl. check /species/m—z/m/magnoliaceae/magnolia
Pl. check with images at Magnolia champaca (L.) Baill. ex Pierre
Thanks …, yessss….
as per my kñowledge it is Magnolia doltsopa.
Flower for id pl. Is it Magnolia ? Which Sp. ?
Location – Near Gangtey (Bhutan)
Date – March. 2018
Pl. check /species/m—z/m/magnoliaceae/magnolia
Is it Magnolia cathcartii ?
I find it more closer to images at Magnolia doltsopa (Buch.-Ham. ex DC.) Figlar as per comparative images at Magnolia
I also think that this is Magnolia doltsopa
To me it seems to be Michelia doltsopa. Flowers of The Himalaya by Oleg Polunin and Adam Stainton refers. (Plate -10, image 74)
could be M. doltsopa…
I fully agree with … and … It is M. doltsopa.
Is Magnolia dolstopa is synonym of Michelia dolstopa …?
I suppose Magnolia is a synonym of Michelia ??
Yes, both are same. But Magnolia is currently used.
Location : Lava, Kalimpong, IndiaDate : 11 May 2018Elevation : 6800 ft.Habit : WildMagnolia ?? . ID ???
That was already done
Magnolia sp
Magnolia doltsopa (Buch.-Ham. ex DC.) FiglarSyn: Michelia doltsopa Buch.-Ham. ex DC.Nepali Name : रानी चाँप Raanee Chaap
Flower for id – 30032019SH1. .Is this Magnolia dolstopa ? : 3 posts by 2 authors. Attachments (1)Flower for id pl. Is this Magnolia dolstopa ?
Location – Latpanchar (Near Darjeeling), West Bengal
Date – March 2019
Thanks, … To me also appears close to images at Magnolia doltsopa
MS Dec,2018/07 Magnolia sp. (not champaca) for Id. : 3 posts by 2 authors. Attachments (4)
Location : Tan, MizoramAltitude : ca. 1,900 m.Date : 05-10-2018(fls.) & 04-12-2018 (Frs.)Habit : Middle-sized to large evergreen tree, somewhat resembling Magnolia champaca in appearace.Habitat : Wild.Notes : Leaves leathery, upper leaves glabrous, shining ?, lower leaves tomentose.
Pl. check comparative images at https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m–-z/m/magnoliaceae/magnolia
May be either Magnolia doltsopa (Buch.-Ham. ex DC.) Figlar or Magnolia campbellii Hook.f. & Thomson
Pl. check.
I think it is Magnolia doltsopa
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Magnolia nilagirica
IUCN Red List Status: Vulnerable (VU)Magnolia nilagirica (Zenker) Figlar, Proc. Int. Symp. Magnoliac. 23 2000. (Syn: Michelia glauca Wight; Michelia nilagirica Zenker; Michelia nilagirica var. walkeri (Wight) Hook.f. & Thomson; Michelia nilagirica var. wightii Hook.f. & Thomson; Michelia ovalifolia Wight; Michelia pulneyensis Wight; Michelia walkeri Wight; Sampacca nilagirica (Zenker) Kuntze);
Images by Santhan P, B.Rathinasabapathy & Santhan P, (inserted by Bhagyashri Ranade) 
Habit- Trees, up to 15 m tallTrunk & Bark- Bark grey, smooth; blaze light orange.Branches and Branchlets- Branchlets terete, pubescent, with annular scars of caducous stipules; apical bud covered by sericeous lanceolate stipules.Leaves- Leaves simple, alternate, spiral; petiole up to 2 cm long, canaliculate, pubescent; lamina 5-11 x 2.2-4.8 cm, elliptic to elliptic-lanceolate, apex acute to slightly acuminate with blunt tip, base acute to attenuate, margin entire, subcoriaceous, glabrous, white glaucous beneath; midrib slightly canaliculate; secondary nerves 10-13 pairs; tertiary nerves closely reticulate.Inflorescence / Flower- Flowers solitary, axillary, large, white or cream.Fruit and Seed- Follicles, warty, arranged as spike, dehiscing dorsally; seeds 1, scarlet.Common trees in high elevation to montane evergreen forests, between 1600 and 2400 m.Endemic to the Western Ghats- Agasthyamalai, Megamalai, Anamalai, Palani, Nilgiris and Bababudangiri Hills.Magnoliaceae, Dilleniaceae and Annonaceae fortnight March 1-14, SN 2 : 2 posts by 2 authors. Attachments (2).Michelia nilagirica Zenk., Fam – MagnoliaceaeNaduvattam, Ooty, Tamilnadu, medium sized wild treeDilleniaceae, Magnoliaceae and Annonaceae Fortnight :Magnoliaceae::Magnolia nilagirica from Ooty. BRS 7 : Attachments (1). 1 post by 1 author.Sharing the images of Magnoliaceae nilagirica from Ooty.
Magnolia nilagirica (Zenker) Figlar. (= Michelia nilagirica Zenker), Magnoliaceae wild endemic tree at an altitude of 1800m
Do you have pics of fruits sir?
References:
The Plant List Ver.1.1 WCSP GRIN India Biodiversity Portal Biotik
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Magnolia figo (Cultivated)
Magnolia figo (Lour.) DC., Syst. Nat. 1: 460 1817. (Syn: Liriodendron figo Lour.; Liriopsis fuscata (Andrews) Spach; Magnolia annonifolia Salisb.; Magnolia fasciata Vent.; Magnolia figo var. figo ; Magnolia fuscata Andrews …; Magnolia meleagrioides DC.; Magnolia parviflora Blume; Magnolia parvifolia DC.; Magnolia versicolor Salisb.; Michelia fascicata (Andrews) Vent.; Michelia figo (Lour.) Spreng.; Michelia fuscata (Andrews) Blume; Michelia parviflora Deless. [Illegitimate]; Michelia parvifolia (DC.) B.D.Jacks.; Sampacca parviflora (Deless.) Kuntze);
Magnolia figo (also called Banana Shrub, Port Wine Magnolia, Michelia figo) is an evergreen tree growing to 3-4 m tall. It is native to China.
Initially described as by Portuguese missionary and naturalist João de Loureiro as Liriodendron figo, it was reclassified as Michelia figo by German botanist Curt Polycarp Joachim Sprengel. In 2006, a cladistic analysis of the genus Michelia found them to lie within the genus Magnolia, with the name now being Magnolia figo.It is cultivated as an ornamental plant in gardens for its fragrant flowers, which are cream-white, purple rounded, or light-purple, and strongly scented. The leaves are leathery, dark glossy-green, up to 10 cm long.This plant is used in Shanghai, China, as a tall evergreen hedge. It grows to a large evergreen compact tree.It grows in acid and alkaline soil very well. Susceptible to black soot.(From Wikipedia on 13.3.14)
Magnolia figo for supplementation and validation:: NS January 19:: 01 : 6 posts by 3 authors. Attachments (6)
Please validate the identity of this shrub, recorded from Kurukshetra University Kurukshetra in March 2016, if id is right, this will add to eFI as flowering twigs, in addition/replacement to my earlier pics from BSIMagnolia figo (Lour.) DC.
seems to be esp. the flower petals. tell me. do you have pictures of the whole shrub? how old is it?//how high?? and leaves both sides
This shrub at present is hardly 1.5 m high and as much wide.. it was probably planted around 2011-12, but not taken good care of, being frequently and unnecessarily pruned by the gardeners..I do not have more distant pics…
Noted. cant the gardeners be trained? or kept away?
I guess ID is correct.
Images by Nidhan Singh, (inserted by Bhagyashri Ranade) 
Dilleniaceae, Magnoliaceae and Annonaceae Fortnight: Michelia figo from BSI, Dehradun- NS March 03 : 3 posts by 2 authors. 2 attachments.
This tree was captured from Botanical Garden of BSI, Dehradun..I am presenting a single image of the plant along with name board..Michelia figo..I hope I have not messed up..
Yes Sir, the plant is also called ‘Banana Shrub/tree’ as the flowers emit pleasant odour of ripe banana
Thanks … hope someone shares complete pics..
Magnolia figo (Magnoliaceae) from Kurukshetra University Kurukshetra… : 3 posts by 3 authors. Attachments (9)Here am posting some images of Magnolia figo (Magnoliaceae) from Kurukshetra University Kurukshetra. Images were taken in March 2019…!!!
nice photographs of A MAGNOLIA but shouldn’t the m. figo flowers be red wine color?
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Magnolia × soulangeana (Cultivated)
Magnolia ×soulangeana Soul.-Bod., Mém. Soc. Linn. Paris 5:269, t. 73. 1826 ;.
Magnolia × soulangeana (saucer magnolia) is a hybrid plant in the genus Magnolia and family Magnoliaceae. It is a deciduous tree with large, early-blooming flowers in various shades of white, pink, and purple. It is one of the most commonly used magnolias in horticulture, being widely planted in the British Isles, especially in the south of England; and in the United States, especially the east and west coasts.[2]
Growing as a multistemmed large shrub or small tree, Magnolia × soulangeana has alternate, simple, shiny, dark green oval-shaped leaves on stout stems. Its flowers emerge dramatically on a bare tree in early spring, with the deciduous leaves expanding shortly thereafter, lasting through summer until autumn.[2]Magnolia × soulangeana flowers are large, commonly 10–20 cm (4–8 in) across, and colored various shades of white, pink, and maroon. An American variety, ‘Grace McDade’ from Alabama, is reported to bear the largest flowers, with a 35 cm (14 in) diameter, white tinged with pinkish-purple.[2] Another variety, Magnolia x soulangiana ‘Jurmag1’, is supposed to have the darkest and tightest flowers. The exact timing and length of flowering varies between named varieties, as does the shape of the flower. Some are globular, others a cup-and-saucer shape.Magnolia × soulangeana is notable for its ease of cultivation, and its relative tolerance to wind and alkaline soils (two vulnerabilities of many other magnolias).(From Wikipedia on 12.3.14).
Dilleniaceae, Magnoliaceae and Annonaceae Fortnight: Magnoliaceae- Magnolia x soulangiana from California-GSMAR8 : 1 post by 1 author.
Magnolia x soulangiana Soul.-Bod, Mém. Soc. Linn. Paris 5:269, t. 73. 1826
A possible hybrid between M. denudata × M. liliiflora, a small tree with obovate leaves and purplish flowers white inside, 15 cm across, appearing before leaves.Photographed from SFO Botanical Garden, California
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This Magnolia tree greeted visitors at the Rhine Falls near Zurich.
Requested to please provide ID.
Magnolia x soulangeana – there are many very beautiful cultivars of this tree.
There are numerous hybrid Magnolia spp. in the UK. Sorry I can’t help with the exact species.
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Magnolia figo var. figo Vent.
Synonyms: Liriopsis fuscata, Magnolia annonifolia, M. fasciata, M. fuscata
Shimla Cultivated
photographed in April 2014 and 2015
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Looks different from images at Magnolia figo (Lour.) DC. and as per references at
May be Magnolia liliiflora Desr.Pl. check
It is Magnolia figo var. figo. It was earlier known as M. fasciata.
Neither the flowers nor the buds match with Magnolia figo.
It is growing at Indian Institute of Advanced Studies, Shimla where many exotic plants have been introduced either by Britishers or by the Institute. According to them, it is Magnolia fasciata, with accepted name, what I had written.
If not this, then the nearest match will be Magnolia × soulangiana.But, that also looks different.Let’s explore for new ID.
Magnolia has sooooo many variances its hard to argue one way or the other , esp sitting at the computer. but love your series of pictures
Does not seem to be M. figo in which flowers are smaller, narrower thicker spreading petals, not also M. liliiflora in which petals are darker outside, larger and and almost thrice as long as broad. M. × soulangiana. seems to be the closest match in petals lighter outside, nearly twice as long as broad. Only problem is sepals. they should be nearly half as long as petals. Here they seem nearly 1/4 of petals.
Sir, it is not even Magnolia liliiflora, which I’ll post tomorrow. I have clicked that from two places.
As I wrote M. × soulangiana seems closest match
Yes, possible as per POWO.
What do you say, …?
To me also, it appears close to Magnolia × soulangeana. My earlier identification was based on the information given by the Horticulture officer of Indian Institute of Advanced Studies. He had introduced this plant as Magnolia fasciata (now accepted name Magnolia figo var. figo). This plant is not an erect shrub but rather is scandant.
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