Category: Embelia

  • Embelia frondosa ?

    Embelia frondosa (King ex Gamble) D. G. Long, Edinburgh J. Bot. 56: 307 1999. (syn: Embelia gamblei Kurz ex C.B.Clarke; Ribesiodes gamblei (Kurz ex C.B.Clarke) Kuntze; Samara frondosa King ex Gamble);
    .
    E. Himalaya to China (Yunnan) and Myanmar: Assam, China South-Central, East Himalaya, Myanmar, Tibet as per POWO;
    .



    from Pakke-Kessang district Arunachal pradesh.: 1 high resolution image.
    Primulaceae member,
    Embelia sp.


    Thanks for identification sir. But this plant not matched with Embelia sp. It may belongs to Myrsinaceae (now primulaceae) kindly help in identification.


    Embelia tsjeriam-cottam


    The picture does not match with the ones on the NET ???


    Please check the probability of Embelia vestita Roxb. – POWO

    Another probability, might be Embelia gamblei Kurz ex C.B.Clarke (E. frondosa (King ex Gamble) D.G.Long) – https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/gallery?taxon_key=3720655, but, the leaf margin in this species would be entire, as per Flora-of-China & Flora-of-British-India).


    After going through the keys in Flora of Bhutan as available at Embelia and GBIF specimens of Embelia vestita Roxb. and Embelia gamblei Kurz ex C.B.Clarke (E. frondosa (King ex Gamble) D.G.Long), I feel it is more closer to Embelia gamblei Kurz ex C.B.Clarke due to large size of the leaves and clear venation at the abaxial side of the leaf. I observed some serration in the specimens of this at specimen one and two. Also in the posted image, I do not see any serration in one of the leaves.


    If I am to follow the KEY in eFI page, I agree with you, Sir, but the leaves in the submitted picture have more tapering apices and base.

    Yes, the submitted picture does bear leaves featuring both having “dentate margin” as well as “entire margin”.


     


    .

    References: POWO  Catalogue of Life  The Plant List Ver.1.1  IPNI  GBIF – one and two (High resolution specimens) Flora of China  FOC illustration  India Biodiversity Portal

  • Embelia tsjeriam-cottam ?

    .

    https://08511630493324166816.googlegroups.com/attach/a7c80c5c757cf3e/Kaptai_%20May_2014%C2%A9_Sourav%20Mahmud%20(481)_resize.JPG?part=0.1&view=1&vt=ANaJVrHU2KM6HbPlLt6m09CDWaLmobf6s0k94yTS8nvxkW_nyhGgww-R8LKeZKJgvrYmHTIC8EfOpMiC7qfBFV_aLZF9Dnh-5gBcwqHBizcZSCwN8n3nxdAhttps://08511630493324166816.googlegroups.com/attach/a7c80c5c757cf3e/Kaptai_%20May_2014%C2%A9_Sourav%20Mahmud%20(479)_resize.JPG?part=0.2&view=1&vt=ANaJVrGMxNgexdMhf6XKC1SdOneZZSvApeNUHJ6CUmWj2ikMzm5wH1UFVRU09Y0-reEdmWFE6sT4roqCYWG8ellKi8OtIbhBfl2l0idkctOXx-MiWDmZAMI
    Climber ID from Bangladesh SM039 : 3 posts by 2 authors. Attachments (2).
    Habit: Climber

    Habitat : Hill forest

    Fruiting : May

    Location : Kaptai NP, Chittagong Hill tracts


    Maybe Embelia sp.


    Thanks, …, for the suggestion.
    Yes, Embelia is possible. Closest I can go is ‎Embelia tsjeriam-cottam (Roem. & Schult.) A.DC. as per comparative images at Embelia

    But I am not sure.

    I examined other possibilities like Maesa and Myrsine, but in vain.
    Hi, …,
    May I request you to pl. send a high resolution image to examine in detail.

  • Embelia ribes

    .
    China (Fujian, Guangdong, Guangxi, Guizhou, Hainan, Yunnan), Tibet, Cambodia, India, Laos, Myanmar [Burma] (Kachin), Sri Lanka, Thailand, Vietnam, Java, peninsular Malaysia (throughout), Bhutan, Darjeeling, Sikkim, Singapore, Borneo, Sumatra, Nepal, Bangladesh as per Catalogue of Life;
    .

    Embelia ribes (Devnagari : विडंग, Gujarati : ‘વાવડીંગ’ ), commonly known as False Black Pepper, White-flowered Embelia, Vidanga, Vaividang, or Vai Vidang, is a species in the Myrsinaceae.[1] It was originally described by Nicolaas Laurens Burman in his 1768 publication, Flora Indica.[2]

    It is widely distributed throughout India.
    In Ayurveda, it is considered widely beneficial in variety of diseases[3] and is also used in homeopathy.[4] In India, it is one of the widely and commonly used Ayurvedic herbs.
    (From  Wikipedia on 15.6.14)
    .

    Climbers; branchlets slender, white, without lenticellate. Leaves to 7 x 3 cm, elliptic, acute at both ends; nerves many, parallel, faint; petiole 1 cm long. Panicles 15 x 15 cm, glabrous, branches long, slender racemose; pedicels 1.5 cm long. Flowers white, many; sepals small, triangular, tomentose; petals 2 mm long, ovate, acute, densely tomentose. Berry 2.5 mm across, globose.
    Flowering and fruiting: March-August
    Semi-evergreen, evergreen and shola forests
    Indo-Malesia and South China
    (Attributions- Dr. N Sasidharan (Dr. B P Pal Fellow), Kerala Forest Research Institute, Peechi
    From India Biodiversity Portal )
    .

    /wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Embelia%20ribes2.JPG/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Embelia%20ribes1.JPG
    Embelia ribes Burm.f, climbing shrub from Gudalur area of Ooty, wild, in vegetative condition,
    it is an important medicinal plant Baibidang, fruits of this is used in Indian medicine.

    Thanks, …, for all the wonderful uploads.



    /wp-content/uploads/2020/10/QWbKdlcSmntXONtr9cfBGmfL-9knQm4mgawV85lZAZRk0f2_jqc5gYxk_UeC2JJJQ5xgMlMo0H19Dvpuhtf-a-DFYzSGua6hvG1kHU0QfOKBAQ-w5000-h5000.jpg
    /wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Ov472t7MbvuvXJJuG6JJPeF_hcQxopUthhjIc0q3qudL9mCdM7tOA-9fJ2bnYj1w-OB5T3AN62R0WyJ3nEutsiUAlVieUPxzSvZQVu7hutL6JQ-w5000-h5000.jpg
    /wp-content/uploads/2020/10/MPVDcM0-zEznmF2fXy-R8SVjb49jFhQcHfDg0DYbJQYUgdwXF57QrmdRms3O8TbYrkiMy9UA9xw-nj0qisoWlwy9lcp_46yzc1xE4oWLW19c-w5000-h5000.jpg
    /wp-content/uploads/2020/10/OBrifhwef_rFr1x77voBAwyQKSrZ3Y9xlvE2lHe_Up_AO6gDFu-0cXP4rxX15SEvXpXX1bv_9S4z2GwzohnNCypCW2REnXAo0bh1flYvAhIitw-w5000-h5000.jpg
    /wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Vr9bEONs68vysFgrAjRERwYKDSG7WxyleEPAmFieffwKawVsLbGhgGkpqXLwW2Yl4nAyfjDSg45uILYvQepG9B8X9B5rifTNb1-5bJDRqNElaQ-w5000-h5000.jpg
    Madikeri Coorg, Karnataka
    Date: 23 FEB 2017 … Average elevation: ~ 1117 m (3667 ft) asl
    Combretum ovalifolium Roxb. … (family: Combretaceae)   

    Embelia ribes



     /wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Embelia%20ribes-Flw.jpg/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Embelia%20ribes-Fru.JPG
    Plumbaginaceae and Primulaceae (incl. Myrsinaceae) Fortnight: Embelia ribes from Arunachal Pradesh : 12 posts by 7 authors. Attachments (2).
    Picture of Embelia ribes– Flowering and fruiting from Ziro, Arunachal Pradesh.

    Beautiful!! Never seen the ripen fruits


    The photograph showing the pink fruits is Embelia basal


    … may be right, the fruits of E. ribes are green when young, black when ripe. The two species often seem to be confused. Here is an important paper that should help.

    Why not E. viridiflora. Otherwise it is E. basaal.


    Yes pink color fruit if Embelia bassal and with inflorescence is Embelia ribes. I stand corrected.


    I feel that … correctly labeled both the pictures in the post. The fruit of Embelia ribes are red before turning black.
    If the leaves in the first picture belong to the same plant, they are definitely not Embelia basaal.


    efi page on Embelia ribes 


    Please refer to Flora of China and Forest Flora of Bombay Presidency and Sind by W. A. Talbot regarding details of fruit. ie size of panicles and colour.E. basaal and E. viridiflora are quite different in appearance.



    /wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Photo_sourav_Mahmud_2-.JPG%20-1-.JPG
    Climber ID from Bangladesh SM016: 5 posts by 3 authors. Attachments (1).
    Habit: Climber
    Habitat: Hill
    Location: Sylhet
    Flowering:  March
    Photo taken: march, 2008


    It is not clear that the obscurely visible climber in the picture and the plant with pink flowers are same or not. To me they look different and the flowering plant may be a species of Osbeckia sp. (Melastomaceae). However, the picture is not sufficient to resolve ID.


    Thanks for your reply. Pinkish one is different form this one. I am attached here with  2 pictures where one is closeup


    check for Embelia ribes Burm.f. others are 1) cf. Lantana camara pink yellow flower), 2) cf. Merremia umbellata (white)


    May be Embelia floribunda Wall. as per

    Looks like Enbelia ribes too..


    Thanks, …, But to me inflorescence looks different in Embelia ribes


    Following keys from Flora of Bhutan at Embelia, it is more closer to Embelia ribes Burm.f.


    .



    Requesting a climber id_190223: 2 high res. images.
    This was climber high up on a wild jackfruit tree. The flowers were green-white. 
    Leaves are alternate, petiolate, lance-ovate and acute. 
    Flowers are green-white, borne in axillary panicles, pentamerous and resembled an asparagus flower. 
    Kallar forest, Thiruvananthapuram, Kerala.


    Flower closeups not clear !


    May be from Lauraceae.


    I tried checking Lauraceae, but could not place it.


    Check with Erycibe paniculata


    Pl verify – Embelia ribes


    Yes, you are right as per images at
    https://efloraofindia.com/2014/06/15/embelia-ribes/


    It appears as Embelia ribes


     

     


    .

    References:
    Catalogue of Life  The Plant List Ver.1.1  GRIN  Digital Flora of Karnataka  Useful Tropical Plants  Flora of China  FOC illustration Annotated checklist of Flowering plants of Nepal  India Biodiversity Portal  Wikipedia

  • Embelia species ?- Sapling at Shahapur

    /wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Unidentified%20Plant%202.jpg
    /wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Unidentified%20Plant%204.jpg

     

    /wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Unidentified%20Plant%203.jpg
    /wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Unidentified%20Plant%201.jpg
    /wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Unidentifeid%20sapling%202.jpg

    /wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Unidentifeid%20sapling%201.jpg
    Please identify this sapling – NS050913 – 2 : Attachments (2). 5 posts by 2 authors.
    At Shahapur. Unfortunately have no further information. Is it a species of Litsea ?


    Very hard to say, but the texture of the leaves reminds me of Embelia sp.


    Thanks but the leaves were initially too large so I did not really consider it to be a species of Embelia.

    Will do, but for now have only these remaining photographs to offer.


     

     
     
     
  • Embelia drupacea

    Embelia drupacea (Dennst.) M.R.Almeida & S.M.Almeida, J. Bombay Nat. Hist. Soc. 90: 426 1993 publ. 1994. (Syn: .; Embelia tetrandra J.Graham; Embelia viridiflora C.B.Clarke [Illegitimate]; Myrsine aurantiaca Wall.; Pothos drupaceus Dennst.);
    .
    Embelia
    drupacea (Dennst.) M.R.Almeida & S.M.Almeida, J. Bombay Nat. Hist. Soc. 90: 426 1993 publ. 1994. (syn: Choripetalum aurantiacum (Wall.) A. DC.; Choripetalum viridiflorum A. DC.; Embelia aurantiaca (Wall.) B. M. Wadhwa; Myrsine aurantiaca Wall.; Pothos drupaceus Dennst.; Samara aurantiaca (Wall.) Arn.; Samara rheedii Wight; Samara viridiflora Thw. (ambiguous synonym)) as per Catalogue of Life;
    .
    Embelia aurantiaca (Wall.) Wadhwa, Revised Handb. Fl. Ceylon 13: 156 1999. (Syn: Embelia basaal auct. non Roem. & Schult.) as per efi thread;
    .
    Sri Lanka, S-India as per Catalogue of Life;
    .

    /wp-content/uploads/2020/10/embelia%20basaal_3.jpg/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/embelia%20basaal_5.jpg

     

    Fruits & Vegetables Week: RVS-15: Embelia basaal (now E. aurantiaca). This wild edible fruit tastes very sour.


    A reply in another thread :
    “The nomenclature of this group may be confusing. I believe that some of the posts labeled as Embelia basaal in this page are probably of E. tsjeriam-cottam, if I am right. Any botanical name here without the author citation might cause confusion.
    Few authors consider Embelia basaal auct. non Roem. & Schult. and E. tsjeriam-cottam (Roem. & Schult.) DC. as one and the same. However, Wadhwa & Sumithraarachchi (in Revised Handbook to the Flora of Ceylon-vol 13) have tried to clear the confusion by making a new combination for the first species as Embelia aurantiaca (Wall.) Wadhwa. They have also provided a detailed note on the nomenclature issue of this complex. But, for some (unpublished?) reason, this name is now listed as synonym of Embelia drupacea (Dennst.) M.R.Almeida & S.M.Almeida and this name has still not been recognized by GRIN.
    We should probably need to revisit Embelia in our records.



    /wp-content/uploads/2020/10/EMb%20bas.JPG
    Embelia basaal (Roem. & Schult.) A. DC ; SAN June 07 : 9 posts by 4 authors. 1 correct image as above.
    Embelia basaal (Roem. & Schult.) A. DC, Fam: Myrsinaceae;

    Wild Climbing shrub from Coonor area of Nilgiri, Tamilnadu


    This does not look like Wavding [Embelia basaal] to me. Please check. Some of my photographs of this are available at these links :

    Will send photographs of the fruit for comparison later if required.


    My photographs of Wavding fruiting. They were taken on my property at Shahapur. Attachments (8)


    Found a few more photographs. Attachments (2)


    I saw the images of …, They all Embelia tsjeriam cottam only. In Embelia basal leaves are coriaceous, veins indistinct whereas in E. tsjeriam-cottam leaf blade is membranous, veins distinct. Flowers tetramerous in E. basal, it is pentamerous in E. tsjeriam- cottam.


    In a way, both … are right! They talk about right plants but the nomenclature is confusing.

    … plant is Embelia aurantiaca, formerly E. basaal (leaves subfleshy, sour, nerves indistinct) as per Flora of Ceylon [it is E. drupacea as per The Plant List].
    … plant is E. tsjeriam-cottam (leaves not fleshy, not sour, nerves prominent often purplish beneath).

    Here is my note from an another thread:

    The nomenclature of this group is confusing….. Few authors consider Embelia basaal auct. non Roem. & Schult. and E. tsjeriam-cottam (Roem. & Schult.) DC. as one and the same. However, Wadhwa & Sumithraarachchi (in Revised Handbook to the Flora of Ceylon-vol 13) have tried to clear the confusion by making a new combination for the first species as Embelia aurantiaca (Wall.) Wadhwa. They have also provided a detailed note on the nomenclature issue of this complex. But, for some (unpublished?) reason, this name is now listed as synonym of Embelia drupacea (Dennst.) M.R.Almeida & S.M.Almeida and this name has still not been recognized by GRIN.”

    The treatments of Embelia in GRIN are seemingly based on old literature hence may not be up-to-date.


    My photographs of Embelia drupacea are available at these links :

    Google Groups


    Thank you …, you have clarified the doubts well.



     /wp-content/uploads/2020/10/DSC_0010.JPG
    Embelia basaal (Roem. & Schult.) A. DC, wild climber from Agumbe area of Karnataka,
    fruits of this also used as baibidang 


    /wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Unidentified%20Climber%20sapling.jpg
    /wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Malabar%20Giant%20Squirrel-Ratufa%20indica%20elphinstonii%202.jpg
    /wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Malabar%20Giant%20Squirrel-Ratufa%20indica%20elphinstonii%201.jpg
    Please identify this climber – NS 300811:  Please identify this climber. Have grown it from seeds collected near the lake at Mahabaleshwar. Unfortunately don’t have too much information to volunteer except to state that the climber grew in a thicket overhanging the road.

    It had red to purplish berries about 1/2 a cm in size which was relished by a pair of Malabar Giant Squirrels so much so that they continued feasting on the berries undeterred by our presence right beneath them.

    Sending a few photographs.


    This should be Embelia drupacea (Dennst.) M.R.Almeida & S.M.Almeida of Primulaceae. Pls confirm if the petioles are chanelled or post a recent picture of the climber. The local name is Ambat and is a favourite of Ratufa.


    /wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Mahabaleshwar%20climber%20-%20a%20Damsel%20Fly.jpg

     

    Thanks … for the lead. The climber hasn’t grown much but am sending a more recent photograph taken in November 2011. A photograph of this plant in S.R.Yadav & M.M.Sardesai’s ‘Flora of Kholapur District’ makes for a favourable comparison.


    Climber in Primulaceae sounds interesting to me sir.
    Embelia belongs to Myrsinaceae now, but no idea about the ID.


    …, yes, the chanelled petiole and nerves merging along margin confirm the ID. Your Ratfa pictures did not show fruits but you say they tally with the picture in Flora of Kolhapur. The climber would be flowering now at M’shwar. … Embelia is in Primulaceae as per ‘The Plant List’, I know it belonged to Myrsinaceae



    /wp-content/uploads/2020/10/22.png

    Identification of climber : 5 posts by 3 authors. Attachments (3)- 1 mb each.

    Request identification of this climber.

    where in the world is it? region ? how many feet above the sea level. rest of habitat and its own habit


    It is a straggler found in Bangalore forest locality around 920 m altitudes. Is it Embelia basaal!! Waiting for flowers for id & confirmation.


    Attachments (3) – 1 mb or more.

    I guess ID is correct !


    Beautiful photographs & a nice upload.  For me the ID is correct.


    Your images look totally different from Embelia tsjeriam-cottam (Roem. & Schult.) A.DC. (syn: Embelia basaal A. DC.) as per images and details herein.
    Pl. also pursue keys at Embelia

    Thank you for the response. Embelia basaal  (Roem. & Schult.) A.DC. according to the plant list is unresolved. As per the digital flora of karnataka it looks to be Embelia basaal. The flowers (petals inside) are orangish and not white (Embelia tsjeriam-cottam) as per the keys.

    I hope the name could be resolved and accepted.


    Thanks, … Nomenclature of Embelia basaal has been quite confusing in the literatures. This has been discussed in details at Embelia tsjeriam-cottam
    Pl. check discussions highlighted in sky colour at Embelia tsjeriam-cottam
    You will see that digital flora of Karnataka has mixed images from two species (Embelia tsjeriam-cottam and Embelia drupacea) at this site.

    Thank you sir,  identified as Embelia viridiflora 


    Embelia viridiflora synonym of Embelia drupacea


    .



    Embelia drupacea (Dennst.) M.R.Almeida & S.M.Almeida submission AS19 December21: 9 images.
    Adding some flowering images of Embelia drupacea to site which otherwise is presented only by vegetative and fruiting images.
    Embelia drupacea (Dennst.) M.R.Almeida & S.M.Almida
    Orange Embelia
    Family – Primulaceae
    Photographed at FRLHT garden and Jarakabande Kaval, Bengaluru Outskirts, Karnataka
    In November 2021


     


    .

    References:
  • Embelia floribunda

    .
    Himalaya to China (Yunnan) and Myanmar: Assam, Bangladesh, China South-Central, East Himalaya, Myanmar, Nepal, Tibet, West Himalaya as per POWO;
    .
    Tibet, China (Yunnan), Bhutan, India, Nepal, Sikkim, Darjeeling, Myanmar [Burma] (Kachin, Taninthayi) as per Catalogue of Life;
    .

     
    Embelia floribunda Wall. : 6 posts by 1 author. 6 images- 6 to 7 mb each.

    Location: Matatirtha, Kathmandu
    Date: 03 October 2020 
    Elevation: 1802 m.
    Habit : Wild


    Location: Phulchoki, Lalitpur
    Date: 07 October 2020 
    Elevation: 1994m.
    Habit : Wild
    Attachments (1)

    .



    SK 3648 01 November 2022: 7 very high res. images.

    Location: Shivapuri National Park, Kathmandu, Nepal
    Altitude:  1850 m.
    Date: 28 October 2022
    Habit : Wild
    Images courtesy : Mr. Sajan Subedi

    What is the plant habit.


    Sunny slope.


    Try primulaceae. Like Embelia


    Embelia floribunda Wall.


    Yes, you are right as per FoC illustration.


    .



    Embelia floribunda Wall.: 6 very high res. images.

    Location: Phulchoki, Lalitpur
    Date: 20 November 2023
    Elevation: 1994m.
    Habit : Wild

    .



    Embelia floribunda Wall.: 8 very high res. images.

    Location: Phulchoki, Lalitpur
    Date: 19 December 2023
    Elevation: 1761m.
    Habit : Wild



    .

    References:
  • Embelia tsjeriam-cottam

    Embelia tsjeriam-cottam (Roem. & Schult.) A.DC., Trans. Linn. Soc. London 17: 131 1834. (syn. Ardisia basaal Roem. & Schult.; Ardisia tsjeriam-cottam Roem. & Schult; Dauceria acuta Dennst.; Dauceria obtusa Dennst.; Embelia acuta (Dennst.) Alston; Embelia basaal A. DC.; Embelia ferruginea Wall. ex A.DC.; Embelia obtusa (Dennst.) Alston; Embelia picta (Buch.-Ham. ex Wall.) A. DC.; Embelia reticulata Wall.; Embelia robusta Roxb.; Embelia villosa Wall.; Pattara acuta Raf.; Pattara basal Raf.; Ribesiodes robustum (Roxb.) Kuntze; Samara picta Buch.-Ham. ex Wall.; Samara robusta Benth. & Hook.f. ex Kurz) as per Catalogue of Life;
    .
    India, Darjeeling, Myanmar [Burma] (Yangon, Bago, Chin, Mandalay), Sri Lanka, Nepal, Pakistan (Pakistani Punjab), Pakistani Kashmir (Mirpur), Jammu & Kashmir (Jammu), Laos, Vietnam, Thailand, Bangladesh as per Catalogue of Life;
    .
    Common name: Malabar Embelia • Hindi: Babrang, Baibrang, Bayabirang, Bhingi, Baya Birang • Kannada: Amti, Joladhanna, Vaivaling, Kanthree vilanga, Choladhanna, Maraharive • Malayalam: Basaal, Cheriyannattam, Tsjeriam-cottam • Marathi: Ambati, Ambuti, Kokla, Waiwarung • Sanskrit: Bidanga, Krimighnam, Vellah, Vidanga • Tamil: Vaivilangam
    .
    Hindi– Babrang, Bhingi; Kannada– Vaivaling; Malayalam–  Vila I; Marathi– Ambati, Kokla; Sanskrit– Bidanga, Vidanga; Tamil– Vaivilangam, Kakkandankai;
    .
    E. ribes is a large climber/ Liana with rough bark because of lenticels and the leaves are small with lots of glands;
    .

    Deciduous shrubs; young stem densely brown pubescent. Leaves 3-7 x 2-4 cm, elliptic-obovate, attenuate at base, margin serrulate, caudate acumiante at apex, glabrous, venation prominent below; petiole to 1 cm long. Racemes axillary, 2.5-4 cm long, appear along with leaves. Peduncle brown pubescent. Pedicel c. 2 mm long. Calyx lobes triangular, c. 1 mm long. Corolla yellow with a thick callous at base inside; lobes 1.5-2 mm long, punctate. Anthers with red gland at the back. Ovary globose; stigma truncate. Fruits 3-4 mm across, subglobose, red tipped by the style.  

    Flowering and fruiting: February-March
    Moist deciduous forests, also in the plains
    India and Myanmar

    /wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Pali%202-b_1.jpg/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Embelia%20basaal-%20Wavding%20flowering%201.jpg/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Embelia%20basaal-%20Wavding%20flowering%205.jpg/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Embelia%20basaal-%20Wavding%20flowering%206.jpg/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Embelia%20basaal-%20Wavding%20flowering%207.jpg/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Embelia%20basaal-%20Wavding%20flowering%202.jpg/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Embelia%20basaal-%20Wavding%20flowering%204.jpg/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Embelia%20basaal-%20Wavding%20flowering%203.jpg/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Pali%202-a_1.JPG/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Pali%202-c_1.JPG

    140711 RV 1: Attachments (3 + 7). 9 posts by 8 authors.
    I saw this woody climber flowering in Sudhagadh district, about 100 km from Mumbai in wild. Please help to identify this climber.


    This looks like some Embelia sp.? (Family: Myrsinaceae).


    This is Wavding [Embelia basaal]. Will send my photographs of this later.


    The nomenclature of this group is confusing, to me at least!

    However, the posted plant is Embelia tsjeriam-cottam.
    E. basaal (now E. aurantiaca) has subfleshy leaves that taste sour. Fruits are edible.

    Embelia tsjarjum-cottam is a synonym of Embelia basaal according to Dr.Almeida’s “Flora of Maharashtra” Vol 3.
    Embelia basaal is the currently accepted terminology. Sending my photographs of Wavding taken in my forest at Shahapur in July last year.
    My previous photographs of this are also available in the archives of this group


    WAVDING is an important ayurvedic herb… its listed in ayurvedic herb books as Embelica ribes….
    and not this…. e. basaal… any ayurvedic medicine plant expert among us?


    The correct identity of commercial ‘Vauding’ used in Ayurvedic preparation Embelia basaal (R. & S.) A. DC., which also has following synonyms

    Ardisia basaal Roem. & Schult., Syst. 4:617-8,1819.

    Embelia robusta Roxb., Fl. Ind. 1:587, 1832.

    Embelia acutipetalum (Lamk. ex Hassk.) Almeida & Almeida in Journ. Bombay. Nat. hist. Soc. 81: 741, 1984 (1985).

    Embelia acuta Alston in Trimen, Hands. Fl. Ceylon 6: Suppl. 177, 1931. 

    The identity and nomenclature of this species is much confused in the past literature due to following two main reasons:

    1. The plant used under the name ‘Vauding’ or ‘Vidanga’ (Embelia ribes Burm. f.) is of doubtful identity of which presently used name has lot of technical mistakes which require careful corrections in light of ‘Rules of International Code of Botanical Nomenclature’. Its medicinal properties are not proven beyond doubt. Actually the plant used in Maharashtra is altogether different species, than the plant used under that name.
    2. Actual plant in medicine and used in commercial use in Maharashtra has confusions in its correct name.

    The earlier common name for ‘Vauding’ in Maharashtra is ‘Basaal’ published by Drakestein van Rheede in Fifth volume of ‘Hortus Malabaricus’ (1685) which has made line-drawings of more than 800 species from Malabar Coast, presently called the West Coast of India or Coast of Konkan. In those days East Coast of India was called Coast of Coromandel and West Coast as Coast of Malabar.

                ‘Basaal’ of van Rheede for the first time, was named under Linnaean binomial system of Nomenclature and under Sexual system of classification included in class Pentandria monogyna by Roemer and Schulters (1819) as Ardisia basaal Roem. & Schulters, based on presence of 5 stamens and one chambered cells of the ovaries in the flowers. 

    Presently genus Ardisia O. Swartz is placed in Robert Brown’s family Myrsinaceae. As per Bentham & Hooker’s, Natural system of classification our species falls under same family Myrsinaceae, but it differs in Generic concept of Ardisia O. Sw. and has been shifted to genus Embelia Burm. f. (nom. cons.).

    Some authors, like Wight (1852), Cooke (1903), Santapau (1967), Malhotra & Moorthy (1971), Bole & Almeida (1984), Nicolson et al (1988), Ugemuge (1986) had confused ‘Vauding’ with Embelia tsjarium-cottam, an Euphorbiaceous species based on another drawings in Rheede’s ‘Hortus Malabaricus’ (Tsjarium-cottam, Hortus Malabaricus 5: 21-4, t-11, 1685), which goes under the name of Antidesma ghasembilla in our Indian Floras for which correct name is Antidesma pubescens Roxb. 


    The correct identity of Ayurvedic  ‘Vidanga’  Embelia ribes N. Burman


    The plant in the picture is not Vidanga/Vizhalari. Please refer the links below.
    My photographs taken while working on the reproductive ecology of E ribes in Kudremukh national parks are saved in disks that kept in my native hence I am unable to upload now. E. ribes is a large climber/ Liana with rough bark because of lenticels and the leaves are small with lots of glands.
    The plant in the picture is Embelia tsjeriam-cottam as .. suggested (I think Embelia basaal put under unresolved (ref: http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl/search?q=embelia) species category. I haven’t got any other valid information other than … provided to think the id as Embelia basaal. But still I doubt whether these 2 are synonyms or 2 different species.


    /wp-content/uploads/2020/10/DSC_1985%20-%20Copy.JPG/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/DSC_1991%20-%20Copy.JPG/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/DSCN0499%20-%20Copy.JPG
    Posting for id : Attachments (3). 12 posts by 8 authors.
    Id plz this flower clicked on 7/7/2013 at Murbad forest Area in deep forest 

    Check for Embelia tsjeriam-cottam…??


    Yes, it is Embelia tsjeriam-cottamSynonyms is Embelia basal


    Wawding in Marathi !!
    Fruits are small, reddish in colour, edible !! medicinally imp plant !!

    Thanks for sharing some very good photographs of an important plant.
    This seems to be uncommon.


    Genus Embelia comes in family Primulaceae.


    I think this is Embelia tsjeriam-cottam, too. Previously it was placed in Myrsinaceae. It is a Red Listed medicinal plant.
    But it should not be confused with E. basaal which is a different species (with fleshy leaves and edible red fruits), now correctly (?) known as E. aurantiaca which sometimes synonymized under E. drupacea.

    Thanks to all it was clicked during night time was not able to take full tree photo because of don’t have powerful flash. 


    Thanks, …, Embelia drupacea & Embelia basal seems different as per references given thereunder.
    Pl. clarify if you think otherwise. 

    The nomenclature of this group may be confusing. I believe that some of the posts labeled as Embelia basaal in this page are probably of E. tsjeriam-cottam, if I am right. Any botanical name here without the author citation might cause confusion.
    Few authors consider Embelia basaal auct. non Roem. & Schult. and E. tsjeriam-cottam (Roem. & Schult.) DC. as one and the same. However, Wadhwa & Sumithraarachchi (in Revised Handbook to the Flora of Ceylon-vol 13) have tried to clear the confusion by making a new combination for the first species as Embelia aurantiaca (Wall.) Wadhwa. They have also provided a detailed note on the nomenclature issue of this complex. But, for some (unpublished?) reason, this name is now listed as synonym of Embelia drupacea (Dennst.) M.R.Almeida & S.M.Almeida and this name has still not been recognized by GRIN.
    We should probably need to revisit Embelia in our records.


    Thanks, … There are five threads there- if you point out particular threads out of these, I can put them for Id again.



    /wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Wavding%20flowers%202.jpg/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Wavding%20flowers.jpg/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Tirangi-DSC00882-3.JPG/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Tirangi-1.JPG/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Embelia%20ribes%20%5BWavding%5D%20flowers%202.jpg/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Embelia%20ribes%20%5BWavding%5D%20flowers.jpg
    Request for ID (160409PKA) :  Attachments (2). 11 posts by 8 authors.
    Came across this small tree on top of “Tirangi Ghat” near Murbad, Maharashtra during the month of July. The leaves were variable, some were seen to be rounded at apex and some were pointed at apex. Kindly help me in identifying this…

    It looks like Embelia ribes locally called Wanding.


    Embelia ribes [Wavding] is a climbing shrub. Sending you a few photographs taken at my farm at Shahapur in July 2008.


    Hey … is partly right, It is Embelia but definitely not ribes. I will have to check but it could belong to E.tsjeram-cottam


    Embelia ribes is very rare. Commonly seen species is Embelia basal which is the one in photo.


    Thanks … It is Embelia basal.


    I would request people to give a little more thought to this.
    According to my references,
    1. E. basaal has flowers in racemes (not panicles), which are supposed to be 3 times shorter than the leaves
    2. E. robusta too has flowers in racemes much shorter than the leaf
    3. E. ribes has flowers in much-branched panicles, which are longer than the leaves. Also, the panicles are at the end of branches.
    In … first picture, I can clearly see a branched panicle.
    In … pictures, flower clusters appear to be much smaller than the leaves, and many of them are not at the end of branches.
    For lack of further evidence, I would tend to think that … plant could be E. ribes. A scandent shrub can sometimes look like a small tree.


    Embelia tsjeriam-cottam


    Yes, agree with …,  For me too it’s Embelia tsjeriam-cottam !!



    /wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Atlas%20moth%20cocoon%203.jpg/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Atlas%20moth%20cocoon%201.jpg/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Atlas%20moth%20caterpillars%20on%20Wavding%201.jpg/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Atlas%20Moths%20mating%202.jpg/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Atlas%20moth%20cocoon%202.jpg/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Atlas%20Moths%20mating%201.jpg/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Atllas%20moth%20caterpillar%20on%20Embelia%20basaal%20%5BWavding%5D%202.jpg
    New food plant of the Atlas Moth : Attachments (7). 5 posts by 4 authors.
    Thought this might be interesting. In July 2006 discovered Atlas Moth caterpillars on my property on Embelia basaal [Wavding]  – a new food plant. They later pupated on a neighbouring Carvanda [Carissa congesta] bush. Sending a few photogrpahs.

    Excellent Shot.  I think it is the largest moth in the world.  Am I right?


    Affirmitive …


    I have very limited knowledge is butterflies, moths and birds but what I can comment is “excellent ” photography and lovely creation of nature.


    A reply in another thread;

    “The nomenclature of this group may be confusing. I believe that some of the posts labeled as Embelia basaal in this page are probably of E. tsjeriam-cottam, if I am right. Any botanical name here without the author citation might cause confusion.
    Few authors consider Embelia basaal auct. non Roem. & Schult. and E. tsjeriam-cottam (Roem. & Schult.) DC. as one and the same. However, Wadhwa & Sumithraarachchi (in Revised Handbook to the Flora of Ceylon-vol 13) have tried to clear the confusion by making a new combination for the first species as Embelia aurantiaca (Wall.) Wadhwa. They have also provided a detailed note on the nomenclature issue of this complex. But, for some (unpublished?) reason, this name is now listed as synonym of Embelia drupacea (Dennst.) M.R.Almeida & S.M.Almeida and this name has still not been recognized by GRIN.
    We should probably need to revisit Embelia in our records.


    Please also check these links



    /wp-content/uploads/2020/10/P1030696.jpg/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/P1030688.jpg/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/P1030692.jpg

    05SEP09 scandent shrub at TWLS : Attachments (3). 2 posts by 2 authors.
    … a scandent shrub … ID please.
    Place: Tungareshwar Wildlife Sanctuary
    Date: 05 SEP 09

    They are the fruit of Embelia basaal locally called Wavding.

    A reply in another thread;
    “The nomenclature of this group may be confusing. I believe that some of the posts labelled as Embelia basaal
    in this page are probably of E. tsjeriam-cottam, if I am right. Any botanical name here without the author citation might cause confusion.
    Few authors consider Embelia basaal auct. non Roem. & Schult. and E. tsjeriam-cottam (Roem. & Schult.) DC. as one and the same. However, Wadhwa & Sumithraarachchi (in Revised Handbook to the Flora of Ceylon-vol 13) have tried to clear the confusion by making a new combination for the first species as Embelia aurantiaca (Wall.) Wadhwa. They have also provided a detailed note on the nomenclature issue of this complex. But, for some (unpublished?) reason, this name is now listed as synonym of Embelia drupacea (Dennst.) M.R.Almeida & S.M.Almeida and this name has still not been recognized by GRIN.
    We should probably need to revisit Embelia in our records
    .”
    Efi page on Embelia drupacea & Embelia tsjeriam-cottam



    /wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Emb%20tsj.JPG/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Em%20tsjk%20frt.JPG/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Embel%20tsje.JPG
    Plumbaginaceae and Primulaceae (inc. Myrsinaceae) Fortnight: Embelia tsjeriam-cottam A.DC SN June01 : 3 posts by 3 authors. Attachments (3).
    Embelia tsjeriam-cottam A.DC, Myrsinaceae shrub seeds commercial substitute for Embelia ribes (baibidang). frequently available in western Ghats



    /wp-content/uploads/2020/10/IMG_9231.jpg/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/IMG_9232.jpg/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/IMG_9230.jpg/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/IMG_9229.jpg

    One more set of pics of Embelia tsjeriam-cottam..
    Family: Myrsinaceae
    Location: Malvan


    Beautiful.


    Thanks …, This is Embelia tsjeriam-cottam from Dehradun, Uttarakhand,



    /wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Tirangi-1-2.JPG
    Came across this small tree on top of “Tirangi Ghat” near Murbad, Maharashtra.
    Bot. name: Embelia tsjeriam-cottam
    Family: Myrsinaceae

    I have yet to see this.



    /wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Embelia%20basaal_1.jpg
    /wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Embelia%20basaal%20leaves_1.JPG
    /wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Embelia%20basaal%20flowers_1.jpg

    Plant for ID ; 140714 : RV 1 : 9 posts by 7 authors. Attachments (3).
    I would like to know, is this gregarious shrub/climber, Embelia basaal, saw today (14.7.14) at SGNP, Mumbai …… the flowers were slightly fragrant.


    Negative. This is not Wavding [Embelia basaal]. Please check these links :
    Google Groups


    Could this be Embelia tsjeriam-cottam?


    Negative. Embelia tsjeriam-cottam is a synonym of E.basaal. Please check this link : Google Groups


    No clue…..sapindaceae?


    Embeliaspecies in India & eFloraofindia with details & some keys
    As per … in different threads:
    Few authors consider Embelia basaal auct. non Roem. & Schult. and E. tsjeriam-cottam (Roem. & Schult.) DC. as one and the same. However, Wadhwa & Sumithraarachchi (in Revised Handbook to the Flora of Ceylon-vol 13) have tried to clear the confusion by making a new combination for the first species as Embelia aurantiaca (Wall.) Wadhwa. They have also provided a detailed note on the nomenclature issue of this complex. But, for some (unpublished?) reason, this name is now listed as synonym of Embelia drupacea (Dennst.) M.R.Almeida & S.M.Almeida and this name has still not been recognized by GRIN. “

    No doubt, this is Embelia tsjeriam-cottam (Roem. & Schult.) A.DC.

    The individuals are often confusing in having serrated and entire leaves.
    But the visible distinctness is the leaf nerves, which are prominent to this taxon.
    …: I hope this is the same population we observed during TAW..

    This is Embelia tsjeriam-cottam (Roem. & Schult.) DC only. It is the only species reported from 2 BSI floras from Maharashtra. It is also reported from Karnataka floras.
    In other species of Embelia one cannot see this much clear leaf venation. Leaves eglandular and glaucous beneath. Papillose petals feature is present in other species also. Its vernacular name reported as Ambeidange, Elang and Vowding.


    Supporting to E. tsjeriam-cottam, no confusion at all.



    /wp-content/uploads/2020/10/IMG_3412.jpg/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/IMG_3415.jpg/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/IMG_3417.jpg/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/IMG_3413.jpg/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/IMG_3414.jpg
    Embelia sp for ID- From Gambhirgad: 21072014- PKA1 : 4 posts by 3 authors. Attachments (5).

    Seen this climber en-route Gambhirgad (Dahanu – Kasa region), Maharashtra.
    Date/Time: 19-07-2014 / 04:00PM
    Plant Habit: Climber
    Looks like some Embelia sp (Family: Myrsinaceae)??

    Embelia –  some‎ species in India & eFI with some keys 


    Embelia tsjerium- kottam


     


    /wp-content/uploads/2020/10/3A.jpg
    /wp-content/uploads/2020/10/3B.jpg

    for ID250814VRW 3 (Medicinal plant) : 2 posts by 2 authors.

    Date/Time- 22/8/2014

    Location- Place, Altitude, GPS- North Gujarat

    Habitat- Garden/ Urban/ Wild/ Type- University Garden

    Plant Habit- Tree/ Shrub/ Climber/ Herb- Climber?
    Other Information like Fragrance, Pollinator, Uses etc.- medicinal plant


    It is Embelia tsjeriam-kottam



    /wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Image%20001-2-1.jpg/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Image%20007-2.jpg/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Image%20005-8-4.jpg/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Image%20004-7-1.jpg/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Image%20002-0-8.jpg/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Image%20006-0-6.jpg/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Image%20003-7-8.jpg/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Image%20009-5-6.jpg/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Image%20008-9.jpg
    GRAM 2016 – Requesting ID : 4 posts by 3 authors. Attachments (9)
    GRAM 20160715
    Requesting ID of this Shrub. Unfortunately I did not manage to get habit shots.
    These were clicked at Kasara, Maharashtra in July 2016

    It looks like Embelia tsjeriam-cottam

     


    /wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Image%20015.jpg/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Image%20008-3.jpg/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Image%20013.jpg/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Image%20014.jpg/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Image%20010-2.jpg/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Image%20020.jpg/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Image%20018.jpg/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Image%20017.jpg/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Image%20019.jpg/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Image%20007-0-4.jpg/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Image%20011-5-0.jpg/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Image%20009-5-6-2.jpg

    /wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Image%20004-1-8.jpg/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Image%20021.jpg/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Image%20016.jpg/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Image%20002-9-4.jpg/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Image%20005-0.jpg/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Image%20003-9-0.jpg/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Image%20012.jpg

    GRAM 2016 : 6 posts by 2 authors. Attachments (21)
    Could this be Ehretia sp. ?  Found at Kasara, August 2016

    Pl. check with comparative images at Ehretia


    It looks like Cordia (based on the flower)


    Embelia tsjeriam-cottam as identified by …


    It looks like Embelia tsjerium-cottam to me.



    /wp-content/uploads/2020/10/DSCN3583.JPG/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/DSCN3585.JPG/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/DSCN3584.JPG
    Botanical name of this sapling please : Attachments (3). 7 posts by 6 authors.

    could someone identify the sapling please?
    Date & Time
    Location: Place, Altitude, GPS        Chethalayam, Wayanad.
    Habitat: Garden, Urban, Wild Type:        Wild


    Pl check it for Embelia tsjeriam-cottam, not sure though.


    yes it is Embelia tsjeriam-cottam


    Embelia tsjeriam-cottam (Roem. & Schult.) A. DC. Trans. Linn. Soc. London 17(1): 131. 1834. Basionym:
    Ardisia tsjeriam-cottam Roem. & Schult. Syst. Veg., ed. 15 bis [Roemer & Schultes] 4: 518. 1819


    /wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Atlas%20moth%20caterpillar%202.jpg/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Atlas%20moth%20caterpillar%201.jpg/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Embelia%20basaal%20%5BWavding%5D%20fruit.jpg
    Fw: [indiantreepix:18753] Re: Cat and the plant for ID – indiantreepix | Google Groups : 4 images.
    It looks like the Atlas moth on Embelia basaal [Wavding]. Sending you some photographs.

    It is definitely Cipadessa baccifera from Meliaceae

    Your pictures seem to be of Embelia tsjeriam-cottam DC. Pl. correct me if i am wrong.
    Generally E. basaal (now E. aurantiaca) leaves will be fleshy, sour, smooth, without purplish veins beneath and the fruits usually found on older stems.

    Flora of Ceylon can be referred for clarity in the nomenclatural confusions existed in the group.



    /wp-content/uploads/2020/10/P1200197-cropped.jpg/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Embelia%20basaal%20%5BWavding%5D.jpg/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/P1200196.jpg/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Plum%20Judy%20laying%20an%20egg%20on%20a%20Wavding%20leaf%202.jpg/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/P1200197.jpg/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/The%20egg.jpg/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/The%20Plum%20Judy%20butterfly%20on%20Wavding.jpg/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Plum%20Judy%20laying%20an%20egg%20on%20a%20Wavding%20leaf%201.jpg
    DV – 03JUL10 – 0359 :: bushy tender shrub : Attachments (3 + 5). 5 posts by 4 authors.

    … only two photos, hopefully helps in ID.
    Date/Time : July 3, 2010 at 3.59pm IST
    Location Place : Lonavala – Tungwadi near Pavana lake

    Altitude : about 826 m (above mean sea level)
    GPS : around 18°39’37.18″N, 73°27’20.76″E
    Habitat : scrub forest along narrow road running adjacent to mountain range
    Type : deciduous forest

    Plant … please help … may be mistaking … this could be a climber in midst of mixed plants.
    Habit
    : tender shrub, bushy
    Height : about 50 – 75 cm
    Length : ¿ not a climber ?
    Leaves
    Type
    : simple alternate, with entire margin, slightly undulated
    Shape : elliptical, rounded at base, acuminate tip
    Size : about 10 -12 cm x 5 – 7 cm

    Inflorescence
    Type
    : axillary raceme
    Size : about 20 – 25 mm
    Flowers
    Size
    : not sure … the spherical white buds 1 – 2 mm
    Colour : possibly white


    It a wild guess but is it member of Chenopodiaceae or from allied family?


    This is Wavding [Embelia basaal].


    But the real Vaayu vilang/ vidang is E. ribes  I suppose… where as this E. basaal is used as an adulterant for the real Vidang, as the seeds from both  resemble much.
    ….. For any more discussions,  look forward the members of the group..

    Thought this might be interesting. Photographed at my farm at Shahapur over the weekend (posted on 8.7.10)


    A reply in another thread;
    “The nomenclature of this group may be confusing. I believe that some of the posts labeled as Embelia basaal
    in this page are probably of E. tsjeriam-cottam, if I am right. Any botanical name here without the author citation might cause confusion.
    Few authors consider Embelia basaal auct. non Roem. & Schult. and E. tsjeriam-cottam (Roem. & Schult.) DC. as one and the same. However, Wadhwa & Sumithraarachchi (in Revised Handbook to the Flora of Ceylon-vol 13) have tried to clear the confusion by making a new combination for the first species as Embelia aurantiaca (Wall.) Wadhwa. They have also provided a detailed note on the nomenclature issue of this complex. But, for some (unpublished?) reason, this name is now listed as synonym of Embelia drupacea (Dennst.) M.R.Almeida & S.M.Almeida and this name has still not been recognized by GRIN.
    We should probably need to revisit Embelia in our records.”
    Efi page on Embelia drupacea & Embelia tsjeriam-cottam



    /wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Pali%203-b_1.jpg
    /wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Pali%203-a_1.jpg

    140711 RV 3: Attachments (3). 6 posts by 3 authors.
    I would request once again you all to identify this woody climber, found it in wild near Pali village.


    looks like Embelia basaal


     A reply in another thread;
    “The nomenclature of this group may be confusing. I believe that some of the posts labeled as Embelia basaal
    in this page are probably of E. tsjeriam-cottam, if I am right. Any botanical name here without the author citation might cause confusion.
    Few authors consider Embelia basaal auct. non Roem. & Schult. and E. tsjeriam-cottam (Roem. & Schult.) DC. as one and the same. However, Wadhwa & Sumithraarachchi (in Revised Handbook to the Flora of Ceylon-vol 13) have tried to clear the confusion by making a new combination for the first species as Embelia aurantiaca (Wall.) Wadhwa. They have also provided a detailed note on the nomenclature issue of this complex. But, for some (unpublished?) reason, this name is now listed as synonym of Embelia drupacea (Dennst.) M.R.Almeida & S.M.Almeida and this name has still not been recognized by GRIN.
    We should probably need to revisit Embelia in our records.


    /wp-content/uploads/2020/10/P_20171108_093628%20-%20Low%20Res.jpg/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/P_20171108_093641%20-%20Low%20Res.jpg

    130719AB1 ID : 4 posts by 3 authors. Last 2 correct images.
    Identification, please.
    Date/Time- November 8, 2017; 09:35 hrs.
    Location- Place, Altitude, GPS- Eastern Melghat
    Habitat- Garden/ Urban/ Wild/ Type- Wild
    Plant Habit- Tree/ Shrub/ Climber/ Herb-  Liana
    Height/Length- 10+’
    Elevation- 700m
    Note- The tree trunk near leaves in one of the photos belongs to a different plant. The leaves however, belong to the liana which is the plant of interest.

    I hope you posted two different plants …, the first two images has compound leaves and another two have simple leaves distinctly
    Seems to
    1. Millettia extensa
    2. Embelia tsjeriam-cottam


    My mistake! Thank you for pointing that out and for id-ing!!


    Thanks, …, for the initial id.
    To me looks different from Millettia extensa (Benth.) Baker as per comparative images at Millettia
    May be close to images at Millettia rubiginosa Wight & Arn.
    Yes, other plant may be close to Embelia tsjeriam-cottam (Roem. & Schult.) A.DC. as per comparative images at Embelia

    ‎I thought Millettia rubiginosa is endemic to Western Ghats. But perhaps I am mistaken.


    Endemic to the Western Ghats, Kerala and Tamilnadu !



    /wp-content/uploads/2020/10/IMG-20190828-WA0035.jpg
    /wp-content/uploads/2020/10/IMG-20190828-WA0036.jpg
    /wp-content/uploads/2020/10/IMG-20190828-WA0037.jpg
    /wp-content/uploads/2020/10/IMG-20190828-WA0034.jpg
    /wp-content/uploads/2020/10/IMG-20190828-WA0033.jpg
    Re: Tree with pink fruit : 4 posts by 2 authors. 5 IMAGES.
    Pechartal, North Tripura
    Please identify

    I think you posted similar plant earlier, which got identified.
    I am unable to recall the genus name now?

    Appears to be from Primulaceae
    May be some Maesa species

    I think it may be Embelia tsjeriam-cottam (Roem. & Schult.) A.DC. as per images, details and references herein.


    .

    /wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Embelia%20basal%20does%20it%20-5-.JPG/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Embelia%20basal%20does%20it%20-3-.JPG/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Embelia%20basal%20does%20it%20-4-.JPG/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Embelia%20basal%20does%20it%20-2-.JPG/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Embelia%20basal%20does%20it%20-1-.JPG

    thorn-jungle of Bettadabeedu, Mysore; Id requested – efloraofindia | Google Groups

    .


    313 ID wild climber: 17 high res. images.
    Please ID wild climber,
    Location: near Reserve Forest, Chathamattom, Ernakulam District, (Kochi) Kerala PIN:686671
    Altitude: 1400fsl
    Flower date: 28.04.2022, 11.15 am
    Habitat: wild, moisture, rocky
    Plant habit: scandent, branches, hard stem 10 inches base diameter, rough bark, old branches base remained as thorns, dark young stem with patches, long lasting
    Height: 04 meters
    Leaves: alternate, ovate, apex, simple, dark veins underneath, size up to: 13×8 cm
    Flower: axillary racemose, clustered, diameter: 07 mm, green, good fragrance
    Fruit: berry, globular, green, diameter: 06 mm
    Seed:
    Camera: CANON EOS1500D +rr


    Embelia tsjeriam-cottam


    Yes, it is Embelia tsjeriam-cottam


    Yes, it’s




    Shrub from Pali, Sudhagad for identification: 3 images.

    Please help in identification of this shrub-
    Type- Shrub
    Location-Sudhagad Wildlife Sanctuary, Pali, Raigad, Maharashtra
    Altitude-400 m appx
    Time- Oct 2022
    No flowering or fruiting observed

    I think it is difficult to id in vegetative stage.


    Leaves resemble Maesa indica and also young leaves of Embelia tsjeriam-cottam. It might be Embelia because the branches seem long and flexible.


    I will try to capture this shrub in the flowering or fruiting stage to confirm the identification.


    .


    Primulaceae: Embelia tsjeriam-cottam A.DC.: 1 high res. image.
    synonyms: Embelia robusta Roxb., Embelia basaal A.DC.
    location/date: Semadoh, Melghat Wildlife Sanctuary, Amravati Distr., Maharashtra, November 1994



    .

    References:

    Catalogue of Life  The Plant List  GRIN  Flora of Pakistan (Embelia robusta Roxb.) 

    Annotated checklist of the flowering plants of Nepal (In bold at the top- Embelia tsjeriam-cottam (Roem. & Schult.) A.DC. with Embelia robusta Roxb. as a synonym) 

    India Biodiversity Portal (Embelia tsjeriam-cottam A.DC. with Embelia robusta Roxb. & Embelia acutipetalum (Lam. ex Hassk.) S.M. & M.R.Almeida  as synonyms)

    Medicinal Plants in Andhra Pradesh, India  By T. Pullaiah (2002- Embelia tsjeriam-cottam A.DC. with Embelia robusta Roxb. as a synonym)

    Indian Medicinal Plants: An Illustrated Dictionary edited by C.P. Khare (2007- Embelia robusta C.B.Clarke, non-Roxb. with Embelia tsjeriam-cottam A.DC. as a synonym)

    Flowers of India  IPNI Plant Name Query Results

    Embelia tsjeriam-cottam (India)

  • Embelia arunachalensis

    Embelia arunachalensis R. K. Choudhary, R. C. Srivast. & Arup K. Das, 2009;
     
    Arunachal Pradesh as per Catalogue of Life;  
     

    /wp-content/uploads/2020/10/DSC07049_01.JPG

     

    /wp-content/uploads/2020/10/DSC07052_01.JPG

    /wp-content/uploads/2020/10/DSC07051_01.JPG
    Climber form Arunachal for ID : Attachments (3). 17 posts by 14 authors.
    The plant is recorded from Dibang Valley Dist of Arunachal in the month of December 2009, elevation is ranges between 1000 m to 1500m.


    What a sweet coincidence!! This is nothing but ‘Embelia arunachalensis’ (Myrsinaceae) described by me for the first time and published in the Journal of Japanese Botany.

    U can refer to the following citation:
    Choudhary, R.K., R.C. Srivastava & A.K. Das. 2009. A new species of Embelia Burm. f. from Arunachal Pradesh (India). In Journal of Japanese Botany 84 (6)-338-341.


    Feels good to announce. A member of efloraofindia Dr. Ritesh Choudhary is the author of this species. A real honour for the group. Congratulations … for finding this new species and thanks for introducing this to us. Thanks … for showing it to us.


    Thanks a lot sir for your kind words that touched my sentiments. I am really happy to be a part of this esteemed group.


    Thanx a lot to Respected … for your appreciation. Even I didn’t get this much appreciation the day I published this new species. Thanx to all once again. “Long Live efloraofindia group.”


    Congrats …, its really a wonderful and unique plant. Looks totally different from other species of Embelia. Please upload pictures of fruits also if you have. Hundreds of tonnes of fruits of different species of Embelia (E. ribes, E. tsjeriam-cottam, as well as other spp of Myrsinaceae) are traded (in the name of Baibrang/Vaividang) in India each year. A popular medicinal plant group. 
    You may like to share any observations from the locality.
    Thanks … for the nice photos of this rare species.


    This species has recently described by Dr. Ritesh K. Chowdhery as Embelia Arunachalensis in J. Japan Bot.
    Dr. D.B. Deb has proposed a new species Embelia daphlaensis (in 1962) but for unknown reasons probably he did not publish. Two annotated para types by D.B. Deb are in ASSAM.